[bestbits] FOR ACTION: survey on programming suggestions for 2017 IGF civil society pre-meeting

parminder parminder at itforchange.net
Sun Sep 10 10:07:16 EDT 2017

On Sunday 10 September 2017 11:44 AM, Dave Burstein wrote:
> Folks
> It seems to me a useful session would be "What the Global South would
> want the Global North to understand.

Agree, Dave, that would a good entry point to developing a southern
> What would be the right content, beyond the obvious lack of
> representation?

We can develop that if there is initial agreement to have the meeting
around this subject, at least have one session on it.... parminder

> On Sun, Sep 10, 2017 at 12:24 AM, parminder <parminder at itforchange.net
> <mailto:parminder at itforchange.net>> wrote:
>     On Sunday 10 September 2017 08:08 AM, Renata Aquino Ribeiro wrote:
>>     Hi
>>     Just answered this and suggested a totally different theme, geared
>>     more towards Global South participation.
>     Thanks Renata for this important theme.
>     But let me undertake a sunday morning  indulgence. Southern
>     participation is important, but equally if not more is a southern
>     narrative on Internet/ digital governance. Does it exist today?
>     Just saying, connect us as well, help us because we are way behind
>     on the digital path that "you" are taking,, does it constitute a
>     southern discourse? Or does the south have a view on "well, is the
>     path itself not the best one?". Does merely getting connected to
>     an arrangement which is exploitative at its core a worthwhile
>     agenda?Especially for civil society. Questions like this.... But
>     the unfortunate fact is; southern participation in global
>     Internet/ digital governance spaces have contributed more to
>     hailing and legitimising a Northern model of Internet/ digital
>     governance rather than seeking one which serves its own interests,
>     and arises from what have in other sectors been considered as
>     "southern perspectives".
>      Partly, it also has to do with how the IG/ digital sector is
>     framed so solidly by North, including controlling its funding
>     streams, which unlike in other areas like trade, access to
>     knowledge, climate justice, etc does not promote a distinctively
>     southern perspective/ alternative, but largely contributes to
>     legitimising a interests-based Northern discourse. What is the
>     role, responsibility and accountability of the incumbent civil
>     society in this. That IMHO is the key "southern question" for
>     civil society to address. Why has it failed to connect and make
>     common cause with southern and social justice based groups in
>     other global civil society sectors? Why have we still to interact
>     on elists where simple questions on practices of biggest digital
>     corporates get shot down and contested by status quo-ists, as we
>     witnessed in the recent case of google's questionable funding
>     practices.
>     These cracks vis a vis relationship of IG civil society and the
>     global Southern and social justice oriented civil society (which
>     is rightly the bulk of the global civil society) are beginning to
>     show up as the digital enters into areas like global trade, where
>     trade justice activists look at IG civil society dumbly pushing 
>     proclamations of  unhindered "free flow of data" and such with
>     astonishment ...
>     Renata, i am not picking on the subject that you have proposed,
>     which is very important, but providing what in my view is a very
>     important context to it....
>     parminder
>>     It is important to note that, in a long time, this is an IGF where the
>>     Global South will not be represented as it was before and Civil
>>     Society can have a role in discussing this and enabling
>>     representation.
>>     So I hope more people answer and have this in mind too
>>     Best,
>>     Renata
>>     On Wed, Sep 6, 2017 at 2:35 PM, Jeremy Malcolm <jmalcolm at eff.org> <mailto:jmalcolm at eff.org> wrote:
>>>     Dear all,
>>>     Previously I sent around a save-the-date notice (with the wrong date
>>>     initially!) for our annual pre-IGF civil society meeting.  Just to
>>>     reconfirm, it will be on Saturday 16 December 2017.
>>>     The organizing committee is now soliciting suggestions for the meeting
>>>     agenda and volunteers, using this survey:
>>>     http://bestbits.net/limesurvey/index.php?r=survey/index&sid=628143&lang=en
>>>     <http://bestbits.net/limesurvey/index.php?r=survey/index&sid=628143&lang=en>
>>>     You are invited to complete that survey between now and 18 September.
>>>     As you will see, there is a suggestion that the overall meeting theme be
>>>     "Private regulation of the Internet", because this is broad enough to
>>>     include many different topics including private speech regulation, trade,
>>>     the Internet of Things, and Internet standards and human rights.  When
>>>     suggesting session topics, please try to relate them to this overall theme.
>>>     But the survey also allows you to suggest a different main theme if you
>>>     disagree with the one that we have suggested.
>>>     Thanks, and we look forward to receiving your responses.
>>>     --
>>>     Jeremy Malcolm
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>>>     Electronic Frontier Foundation
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