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<div class="moz-cite-prefix">On Sunday 10 September 2017 11:44 AM,
Dave Burstein wrote:<br>
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session would be "What the Global South would want the Global
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Agree, Dave, that would a good entry point to developing a southern
discourse....<br>
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content, beyond the obvious lack of representation?</div>
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We can develop that if there is initial agreement to have the
meeting around this subject, at least have one session on it....
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Sunday 10 September 2017 08:08 AM, Renata Aquino
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Just answered this and suggested a totally different theme, geared
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</span> Thanks Renata for this important theme.<br>
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But let me undertake a sunday morning indulgence.
Southern participation is important, but equally if not
more is a southern narrative on Internet/ digital
governance. Does it exist today? Just saying, connect us
as well, help us because we are way behind on the digital
path that "you" are taking,, does it constitute a southern
discourse? Or does the south have a view on "well, is the
path itself not the best one?". Does merely getting
connected to an arrangement which is exploitative at its
core a worthwhile agenda?Especially for civil society.
Questions like this.... But the unfortunate fact is;
southern participation in global Internet/ digital
governance spaces have contributed more to hailing and
legitimising a Northern model of Internet/ digital
governance rather than seeking one which serves its own
interests, and arises from what have in other sectors been
considered as "southern perspectives".<br>
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Partly, it also has to do with how the IG/ digital sector
is framed so solidly by North, including controlling its
funding streams, which unlike in other areas like trade,
access to knowledge, climate justice, etc does not promote
a distinctively southern perspective/ alternative, but
largely contributes to legitimising a interests-based
Northern discourse. What is the role, responsibility and
accountability of the incumbent civil society in this.
That IMHO is the key "southern question" for civil society
to address. Why has it failed to connect and make common
cause with southern and social justice based groups in
other global civil society sectors? Why have we still to
interact on elists where simple questions on practices of
biggest digital corporates get shot down and contested by
status quo-ists, as we witnessed in the recent case of
google's questionable funding practices. <br>
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These cracks vis a vis relationship of IG civil society
and the global Southern and social justice oriented civil
society (which is rightly the bulk of the global civil
society) are beginning to show up as the digital enters
into areas like global trade, where trade justice
activists look at IG civil society dumbly pushing
proclamations of unhindered "free flow of data" and such
with astonishment ...<br>
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Renata, i am not picking on the subject that you have
proposed, which is very important, but providing what in
my view is a very important context to it....<br>
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<pre>It is important to note that, in a long time, this is an IGF where the
Global South will not be represented as it was before and Civil
Society can have a role in discussing this and enabling
representation.
So I hope more people answer and have this in mind too
Best,
Renata
On Wed, Sep 6, 2017 at 2:35 PM, Jeremy Malcolm <a class="m_4878549440731341964moz-txt-link-rfc2396E" href="mailto:jmalcolm@eff.org" target="_blank" moz-do-not-send="true"><jmalcolm@eff.org></a> wrote:
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<pre>Dear all,
Previously I sent around a save-the-date notice (with the wrong date
initially!) for our annual pre-IGF civil society meeting. Just to
reconfirm, it will be on Saturday 16 December 2017.
The organizing committee is now soliciting suggestions for the meeting
agenda and volunteers, using this survey:
<a class="m_4878549440731341964moz-txt-link-freetext" href="http://bestbits.net/limesurvey/index.php?r=survey/index&sid=628143&lang=en" target="_blank" moz-do-not-send="true">http://bestbits.net/<wbr>limesurvey/index.php?r=survey/<wbr>index&sid=628143&lang=en</a>
You are invited to complete that survey between now and 18 September.
As you will see, there is a suggestion that the overall meeting theme be
"Private regulation of the Internet", because this is broad enough to
include many different topics including private speech regulation, trade,
the Internet of Things, and Internet standards and human rights. When
suggesting session topics, please try to relate them to this overall theme.
But the survey also allows you to suggest a different main theme if you
disagree with the one that we have suggested.
Thanks, and we look forward to receiving your responses.
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