[bestbits] The elephant in the room?

[willi uebelherr]

Dear parminder and all,

after I read the text of Becky, I wanted to know, who is One World 
Trust. Therefore. That's why I looked around a bit on the site 
www.oneworldtrust.org.

In About Us:
"A detailed review of the past links between the One World Trust and the 
All Party Group, can be found here."
Voices in Parliament; a brief study of a successful All-Party 
Parliamentary Group
www.oneworldtrust.org/publications/doc_view/195-appgwg-and-owt-history?tmpl=component&format=raw

Dear parminder, never i thought, that there comes a positive answer like 
from you. You have to read this text. Then you understand, that the 
interest and intention of this organisation is very different of that of 
you. I hope that.

With "accountability" we have the same situation like with the routing 
of our data packets. If you create a system, where the necessarity of 
"Governace" or "Accountability" is a design principle, then the "Civil 
Society", the people, lost.

The perspective of a "One World", a "New World Order", a "Super 
Government" or any other shit, is a moving of representative systems to 
a single center. Not important, where. Wall Street, City of London or 
any. Like in all representative systems, the people have no trust. 
Because the reality is very different to the representative theater. 
This make the propaganda to "accountability" necessary.

You start tour life in India. Or not? Therefore, you know the lies of 
the British elites and occupiers. We speak about self organizing, self 
determination, if we speak about Civil Society.

many greetings, willi
Buenos Aires, Argentina


Am 25/05/2015 um 02:27 a.m. schrieb parminder: (in BestBit)
> Dear Becky/ All
>
> Good to see a substantive discussion begin on this important topic.
>
> Hope the list can sustain such a discussion to come up with a
> transparency and accountability framework that is best for the IG civil
> society.
>
> The four principles in the cited document look good to me -
> transparency, participation, evaluation, and complaint and response
> mechanisms.
>
> Look forward to a good discussion on this list, and BB's steering
> committee's response to the proposal.
>
> I am also seeking a discussion on the JNC list, and will also request a
> formal response from the JNC.
>
> Best, parminder
>
>
>
> On Sunday 24 May 2015 09:14 PM, Becky Lentz wrote: (in BestBit)
>> Dear BB and JNC colleagues,
>>
>> Reading BB list posts over the past two days re the tension/debate about
>> accountability feels toxic/uncivil (at least to this reader anyway),
>> unless that recurring conversation can actually Œgo somewhere¹ beyond
>> periodic disagreements about what is/isn¹t civil society and what
>> transparency and representation ought to mean, or doesn't mean, to various
>> participants. What is remarkable, imho, is how BB has managed to find ways
>> to work together when it is strategically useful to do so despite all of
>> the obstacles to collaboration that clearly exist: the elephant in the
>> room. Yet, while that doesn¹t seem problematic to some, it does to others
>> if they are seeking to change the very values/principles that drive the
>> work itself.
>>
>> For what it¹s worth (knowing that those with longer histories doing this
>> kind of work most likely have encountered such tools as well as critiques
>> of them), here are some links that might be considered by BB¹s executive
>> committee, and for that matter, the JNC¹s leaders, if either is
>> potentially interested in taking its own model of collaboration to another
>> level in the IG/digital rights field and beyond. In fact, the IG/digital
>> rights field could take on actually providing other fields with a model of
>> how to navigate these tensions, if addressing Œthe elephant in the room¹
>> were also considered an equally important Œpart of the work¹ alongside the
>> very necessary research/advocacy/organizing work already going on.
>>
>> The tools in this resource uphold four accountability principles.
>> Implemented at various key institutional and research processes, they aim
>> to improve accountability relations between organisations and their
>> stakeholders: http://www.oneworldtrust.org/apro/about and
>> http://www.oneworldtrust.org/apro/about/using_the_tools.
>>
>> This may also be of interest 'Does it matter Who Funds You?¹
>> http://www.oneworldtrust.org/blog/?p=579
>>
>> Becky Lentz
>> McGill University
>>
>>
>>
>>
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