[bestbits] Shortlists for Brazil for further consideration

Wed Jan 8 18:31:42 EST 2014

 (Apart of the personal side, and as I mentioned to Parminder, I do not
take things personal - so that was an exception Ian, because it was
personal :-) )

What disturbs me the most is that this email shows that there are groups
withing groups. And this groups do not seem to be working groups, but
groups that are ok with "ruptures at any point" (and I prefer to keep to
myself what this may mean). And this worries me incredibly. It creates lots
of trouble regarding the process we all agreed to in a certain moment and
it also exposes all of us as CS.

I am part of many other movements (open government, open data for science,
free culture, open education, open access for publications, etc) and the
cooperation and trust is much more present, which makes all the work, our
strategies and positions move better. Plus, we are probably happier and
more positive.

I feel that if we do not have a true commitment with the group and also if
we are not willing to open spaces for new comers, our movement may have a
very dark end. I have been witnessing over the list - which actually make
me sad, and I am sure overburdens lots of people here - the personal
attacks, and the difficult we seem to have in "letting go" or "in
trusting". I worked with cooperation theory, and I think if we were all
part of a prisoners' dilemma game, we would all be dead by now due to our
long long prison sentences. ;-)

I preferred to be quiet when the attacks start, but again, I think it is
just sad and a distraction from the real work. I have actually been
thinking of ways to deal with that...such as having a working wiki where
the real content driven work can happen and we list the content and
strategy topics being discussed (which is also a better way to document
work and find consensus)  while folks keep debating interesting things on
the list (or other issues...).

The only other similar community I have known (and also participated in) is
the Wikipedia. You have to have a real rough skin over there...hehehe. But
they do get things done by using a knowledge management platform - a wiki.

Anyway....I will take care of other work now, of my beautiful 3 year-old
and have a glass of wine (which I humbly recommend to all), hoping we all
find ways of trusting ourselves as a group and our processes better.

Hugs to all, (yes, I am Brazilian and thus a big hugger) :-)

Carol

On Wed, Jan 8, 2014 at 5:47 PM, Burcu Kilic <bkilic at citizen.org> wrote:

> I second that. Carol is a strong advocate for developing countries,
> particularly Latin America.
>
> She is a proud Brazilian when it comes to work.
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> *From:* bestbits-request at lists.bestbits.net [mailto:
> bestbits-request at lists.bestbits.net] *On Behalf Of *Carolina
> *Sent:* Wednesday, January 08, 2014 5:28 PM
> *To:* Ian Peter
> *Cc:* Ian Peter; <bestbits at lists.bestbits.net>
> *Subject:* Re: [bestbits] Shortlists for Brazil for further consideration
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> Btw... I am Brazilian and even leaving in US, I have TONS of work in
> developing world, my day by day work is focused on developing work, and
> just moved to the US because my husband is american. I do TONS of pro bono
> work on A2K, education, and ICTs in Brazil and other Latin American and
> South Asia countries. So it is NOT true I would not represent a developing
> country view.
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> I am very honored by the votes and the trust.
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> Sent from my iPhone
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> On Jan 8, 2014, at 4:02 PM, "Ian Peter" <ian.peter at ianpeter.com> wrote:
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> OMG... clearly not meant for this list and my sincere apologies to
> everyone.
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> this was an awful mistake on my part...
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> *From:* Ian Peter <ian.peter at ianpeter.com>
>
> *Sent:* Thursday, January 09, 2014 7:43 AM
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> *To:* bestbits at lists.bestbits.net
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> *Subject:* [bestbits] Shortlists for Brazil for further consideration
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> Thanks everyone for prompt replies – below is a summary of your responses
> and the candidates still under consideration (although there is nothing to
> stop us bringing forward other names later on if we want to)
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> HLC
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> Carolina Rossini – 3.5 votes
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> Jovan K – 3 votes
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> Mark Rotenberg – 3 votes
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> Joana Varon 2.5 votes
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> Milton Mueller 2 votes
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> Parminder Singh 2 votes
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> Stephanie Perrin 1 vote
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> Louis Pouzin 1 vote
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> Marilia Maciel 1 vote
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> SOME COMMENTS AND ISSUES
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> The brief here is “This committee will set the high level political tone
> and objectives of the
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> conference.  Committee members will engage on a global level with
> stakeholders to
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> encourage participation in the conference and maximize its chances of
> success”
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> Bear in mind also that (my paraphrasing) the aim of the meeting seems to
> be to develop a set of high level principles for Internet Governance.
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> We dont know yet whether we need 3 or 4 candidates, and probably wont know
> till Saturday. I think our aim between now and then should be to try and
> narrow down our field a bit and eliminate some names if possible. But in
> doing so:
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> Carolina Rossini, Jovan K and Marc Rotenberg got the most support
> initially – not that we need to be bound by this. They are all impressive
> candidates.
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> If Marc was in, we probably couldn’t include Milton – 2 US males would not
> be a good decision politically. Milton also probably fits as an academic –
> but as he is likely to be running the process to select academic
> candidates, he may not be able to include himself. Maybe we should seek
> clarification here?
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> If Carolina was in, we probably wouldn’t include Joana or Marilia
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> None of our first 3 would be considered to be a strong advocate for third
> world issues. If we thought it was important to include someone with this
> perspective, the choices would be Louis Pouzin or Parminder Singh.
> Parminder has indicated he would step down in favour of Louis Pouzin, and
> we may need to consider that Parminder is a member of the CI (Community
> Informatics) Nomcom also considering candidates for these very same
> positions (but with about 6 candidates and very little chance of their
> nominees being accepted) . That may be perceived as a conflict of interest,
> or we could ignore it. But some people have already suggested to me
> informally that Parminder has a conflict of interest here.
>
>
>
> Also to just note re Stephanie Perrin – if Marc Rotenberg was in we might
> consider we have privacy issues well covered; but if in our final slate we
> wanted to include Milton and leave Marc out to not have too many male US
> citizens Stephanie is an option to cover privacy.
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>
> So lots of issues.Let’s discuss and see if we can narrow down a little
> while we await info as to whether we need 3 or 4 names.
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> EC
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> Marilia Maciel 3.5 votes
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> Adam Peake 3 votes
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> Joana Varon 2 votes
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> Nadira Alaraj 1.5 votes
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> Carolina Rossini 1.5 votes
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> Stephanie Perrin 1 vote
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> Norbert Bollow 1 vote
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> Birgitta Jonsdottr .5
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> Parminder Singh .5
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> SOME COMMENTS AND ISSUES
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>
>
> The brief here is “This committee owns the full responsibility of
> organizing the event, including: defining conference purpose/agenda,
> managing invitations, organizing input received into a coherent set of
> proposals for the conferees to address, managing conference proceedings and
> process, and directing all communications activities pre/during/post
> conference.  This committee will include 2 civil society representatives”.
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> I think we need to determine HLC before finalising here. However Marilia
> and Adam have the strongest support at this stage. We again face the issue
> here of having a strong advocate for third world issues as a factor in
> deciding our final 2.
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> Over to you all for comments, suggestions, and attempts to narrow this
> down further!
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> Ian Peter
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