[bestbits] Re: notes from meeting with FADI in DC
Marianne Franklin
m.i.franklin at gold.ac.uk
Thu Jan 30 12:18:46 EST 2014
+1 from me, and I think I am all grown up now so am "mature" enough...
though who knows?! :)
best
MF
On 30/01/2014 17:49, Carolina Rossini wrote:
> That is how I also feel
>
>
> On Thu, Jan 30, 2014 at 11:19 AM, genekimmelman at gmail.com
> <mailto:genekimmelman at gmail.com> <genekimmelman at gmail.com
> <mailto:genekimmelman at gmail.com>> wrote:
>
> Who cares what he thinks. We should submit what we think needs to
> be addressed in Internet policy!
>
>
>
> -------- Original message --------
> From: Carolina Rossini <carolina.rossini at gmail.com
> <mailto:carolina.rossini at gmail.com>>
> Date: 01/30/2014 11:02 AM (GMT-05:00)
> To: Joana Varon <joana at varonferraz.com
> <mailto:joana at varonferraz.com>>,Jochai Ben-Avie
> <jochai at accessnow.org <mailto:jochai at accessnow.org>>
> Cc: "bestbits at lists.bestbits.net
> <mailto:bestbits at lists.bestbits.net>> <"
> <bestbits at lists.bestbits.net
> <mailto:bestbits at lists.bestbits.net>>,Rafik Dammak
> <rafik.dammak at gmail.com <mailto:rafik.dammak at gmail.com>>
> Subject: Re: [bestbits] Re: notes from meeting with FADI in DC
>
>
> - He did not mentioned specific dates for the reports, but he said
> they are almost done.
> - I did understand that when he was saying "governance principles"
> they would be process focus principles. So transparency,
> multistakeholder, etc would be discussed, but net neutrality and
> things alike would not (But remember, Fadi impressions have
> diverged in the past from those of the Brazilian officials). Maybe
> this is something that should be clarified by the committees. At
> the end the statement "crafting internet principles" is not that
> clear (to say the least)
> - yes, he did agree HR should be the broader framework for all this
> - I was in a meeting yesterday with folks of the Necessary and
> Proportionate coalition, and I specifically suggested Katitza
> (EFF), Jochai (Access) and Mathew (CDT) to submit through the site
> the N and P principles...
>
>
> On Thu, Jan 30, 2014 at 3:05 AM, Joana Varon
> <joana at varonferraz.com <mailto:joana at varonferraz.com>> wrote:
>
> Thanks, Carol.
> This part brought my attention:
>
> "Brazil wont discuss internet principles in general, but
> principles of governance: principles, networks, etc. We will
> just have 2 days."
>
> +
> The addition you guys made on Human Rights and he agreed.
>
> I wonder what is the understanding...is it that there wouldnt
> be space to debate specific principles such as necessary and
> proportionate?
>
> Do we have a date for Vint's report?
>
> On 29 Jan 2014 13:56, "Carolina Rossini"
> <carolina.rossini at gmail.com
> <mailto:carolina.rossini at gmail.com>> wrote:
>
> Well, it seems he will growth on his position until this
> group of social responsability figures out their next
> steps, but we can clarify
>
> Chirs is also moving to DC.
>
> No bigger context to the meeting besides dialogue. They
> just called folks from civil society and think tanks in DC
> to meet, since Fadi was here to speak at STON
>
> C.
>
>
> On Wed, Jan 29, 2014 at 10:25 AM, Rafik
> <rafik.dammak at gmail.com <mailto:rafik.dammak at gmail.com>>
> wrote:
>
> hi Carolina,
>
> Thanks for those notes and updates and what was the
> context of this meeting?
> Btw Chris mondini main task is to engage business,
> there is no specific staff for civil society :).
>
> Best,
>
> Rafik
>
>
>
> Le 30 Jan 2014 à 00:10, Carolina
> <carolina.rossini at gmail.com
> <mailto:carolina.rossini at gmail.com>> a écrit :
>
>> And an important addition, Brett and I brought it up
>> that Human Rights framework should be a core issue to
>> be considered as a base for any principle setting
>> moving forward and Fadi agreed and reinforced it.
>>
>> Sent from my iPhone
>>
>> On Jan 29, 2014, at 10:02 AM, Carolina Rossini
>> <carolina.rossini at gmail.com
>> <mailto:carolina.rossini at gmail.com>> wrote:
>>
>>> Dear all,
>>>
>>> here my notes from what Fadi talked about this
>>> morning here in DC. I tried to capture as much as I
>>> could his own words. But this are my notes.
>>>
>>> They also mentioned new websites:
>>> * learn.icann.org
>>> * labs.icann.org
>>> * new.icann.org
>>>
>>> And for contact: Chris Mondini <chris.mondini at icann.org>
>>>
>>> Brett from Access was also in the meeting, so he may
>>> have complementary notes.
>>>
>>> Best,
>>>
>>> Carol
>>>
>>>
>>> "This is our first gathering of the DC ICANN office.
>>>
>>> Snowden, good or bad, brought the topic of “who run
>>> the internet” up in the agenda of countries around
>>> the world.
>>>
>>> Fadi is 1 ½ in. Mandates are of 3 years.
>>>
>>> The openness for ICANN is crucial for our mission.
>>> ICANN is a very western centric organization, based
>>> on its staff and posture. 3 centers. They have
>>> implemented Sales Force CRM across the offices to
>>> ensure questions are answered. ICANN is also
>>> creating “engagement centers” around the world.
>>> Montevideo, Beijing, Geneva, Cairo. Building centers
>>> of excellence, such as in Delhi and another to come
>>> in Africa on youth and entrepreneurship and a
>>> possible 3^rd one in Russia.
>>>
>>> “Ensuring that ICANN is ready to face the
>>> responsibilities it has at the global level.”
>>>
>>> Wants ICANN to be an example of multistakeholderism
>>> and openness.
>>>
>>> ICANN is rooted in the pubic interest. Some view may
>>> diverge. I am think this is we have not acted > he
>>> appointed a full time president of public
>>> responsibility > one of the key elements is
>>> education. How to use that money in the public
>>> interest. This president brought a panel to help him
>>> develop this strategy.
>>>
>>> An academic meeting in August as a follow-up. Friday
>>> and Saturday in Rio. Fadi also wants to do the same
>>> with civil society in November. Fadi affirms he can
>>> help with platform and costs.
>>>
>>> Civil society representatives need more strength –
>>> ICANN can support costs of travel. We have a 133
>>> countries siting at the table and showing at every
>>> meeting. They are on “equal” footing.
>>>
>>> Brazil wont discuss internet principles in general,
>>> but principles of governance: principles, networks,
>>> etc. We will just have 2 days.
>>>
>>> PHASES: Design (the internet ecosystem which will
>>> work, this effort should end in the Brazil meeting)
>>> (hopefully this will be shown as a picture. This is
>>> a high level document. 10pgs), engineer (this is a
>>> second phase and it will start in early may and go
>>> through the end of the year. Take the high level
>>> design and develop how it will work. Joi Ito,
>>> Novack, etc. This needs to give me something that is
>>> operationalizable.), operation (execution of the plan).
>>>
>>> Fadi are bringing the pieces to create a complex
>>> regime that is new, synchronized with the
>>> nation-state model. We are in a race to ensure that
>>> the head of states
>>>
>>> IANA: this was a discussion where only small rooms
>>> that US controls the Internet. Fadi discussed with
>>> his board that ICANN should take the oversight from
>>> US. It was always know that this was just a matter
>>> of time. Fadi and his board agreed that ICANN is
>>> ready to overtake that function and have the public
>>> discussion about it. We have strategy panels, one
>>> led by Vincent Cerf, who is about to release its
>>> report saying ICANN is mature enough. The question
>>> is all about if ICANN is mature enough … and we need
>>> a mature civil society. I was invited for the Best
>>> Bits meeting and it was a great truth meeting.
>>>
>>> He wants us to be sure we all are mature enough to
>>> assume all functions. And for this to happen Fadi
>>> feels we need more and stronger civil society. But
>>> the stakeholders need engage and be mature, so no
>>> other country (or all of them) take control of the IANA.
>>>
>>>
>>> We are planning the creation of governance networks.
>>> How we would come together and for a certain issue
>>> could include A + B + C. they are dynamic, hopefully
>>> effective and the involved may vary based on the need.
>>>
>>>
>>> March 1st is the deadline for submissions for Brazil
>>> mtg in the website"
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> --
>>> *Carolina Rossini*
>>> /Project Director, Latin America Resource Center/
>>> Open Technology Institute
>>> *New America Foundation*
>>> //
>>> http://carolinarossini.net/
>>> <http://carolinarossini.net/>
>>> + 1 6176979389
>>> *carolina.rossini at gmail.com
>>> <mailto:carolina.rossini at gmail.com>*
>>> skype: carolrossini
>>> @carolinarossini
>>>
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Dr Marianne Franklin
Professor of Global Media and Politics
Convener: Global Media & Transnational Communications Program
Goldsmiths (University of London)
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