[bestbits] Re: notes from meeting with FADI in DC

Thu Jan 30 11:49:05 EST 2014

That is how I also feel

On Thu, Jan 30, 2014 at 11:19 AM, genekimmelman at gmail.com <
genekimmelman at gmail.com> wrote:

> Who cares what he thinks. We should submit what we think needs to be
> addressed in Internet policy!
>
>
>
> -------- Original message --------
> From: Carolina Rossini <carolina.rossini at gmail.com>
> Date: 01/30/2014 11:02 AM (GMT-05:00)
> To: Joana Varon <joana at varonferraz.com>,Jochai Ben-Avie <
> jochai at accessnow.org>
> Cc: "bestbits at lists.bestbits.net&gt &lt" <bestbits at lists.bestbits.net>,Rafik
> Dammak <rafik.dammak at gmail.com>
> Subject: Re: [bestbits] Re: notes from meeting with FADI in DC
>
>
> - He did not mentioned specific dates for the reports, but he said they
> are almost done.
> - I did understand that when he was saying "governance principles" they
> would be process focus principles. So transparency, multistakeholder, etc
> would be discussed, but net neutrality and things alike would not (But
> remember, Fadi impressions have diverged in the past from those of the
> Brazilian officials). Maybe this is something that should be clarified by
> the committees. At the end the statement "crafting internet principles" is
> not that clear (to say the least)
> - yes, he did agree HR should be the broader framework for all this
> - I was in a meeting yesterday with folks of the Necessary and
> Proportionate coalition, and I specifically suggested Katitza (EFF), Jochai
> (Access) and Mathew (CDT) to submit through the site the N and P
> principles...
>
>
> On Thu, Jan 30, 2014 at 3:05 AM, Joana Varon <joana at varonferraz.com>wrote:
>
>> Thanks, Carol.
>> This part brought my attention:
>>
>> "Brazil wont discuss internet principles in general, but principles of
>> governance: principles, networks, etc. We will just have 2 days."
>>
>> +
>> The addition you guys made on Human Rights and he agreed.
>>
>> I wonder what is the understanding...is it that there wouldnt be space to
>> debate specific  principles such as necessary and proportionate?
>>
>> Do we have a date for Vint's report?
>>
>> On 29 Jan 2014 13:56, "Carolina Rossini" <carolina.rossini at gmail.com>
>> wrote:
>>
>>> Well, it seems he will growth on his position until this group of social
>>> responsability figures out their next steps, but we can clarify
>>>
>>> Chirs is also moving to DC.
>>>
>>>  No bigger context to the meeting besides dialogue. They just called
>>> folks from civil society and think tanks in DC to meet, since Fadi was here
>>> to speak at STON
>>>
>>> C.
>>>
>>>
>>> On Wed, Jan 29, 2014 at 10:25 AM, Rafik <rafik.dammak at gmail.com> wrote:
>>>
>>>> hi Carolina,
>>>>
>>>> Thanks for those notes and updates and what was the context of this
>>>> meeting?
>>>> Btw Chris mondini main task is to engage business, there is no
>>>>  specific staff for civil society :).
>>>>
>>>> Best,
>>>>
>>>> Rafik
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Le 30 Jan 2014 à 00:10, Carolina <carolina.rossini at gmail.com> a écrit :
>>>>
>>>> And an important addition, Brett and I brought it up that Human Rights
>>>> framework should be a core issue to be considered as a base for any
>>>> principle setting moving forward and Fadi agreed and reinforced it.
>>>>
>>>> Sent from my iPhone
>>>>
>>>> On Jan 29, 2014, at 10:02 AM, Carolina Rossini <
>>>> carolina.rossini at gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>
>>>> Dear all,
>>>>
>>>> here my notes from what Fadi talked about this morning here in DC. I
>>>> tried to capture as much as I could his own words. But this are my notes.
>>>>
>>>> They also mentioned new websites:
>>>> * learn.icann.org
>>>> * labs.icann.org
>>>> * new.icann.org
>>>>
>>>> And for contact: Chris Mondini <chris.mondini at icann.org>
>>>>
>>>> Brett from Access was also in the meeting, so he may have complementary
>>>> notes.
>>>>
>>>> Best,
>>>>
>>>> Carol
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> "This is our first gathering of the DC ICANN office.
>>>>
>>>> Snowden, good or bad, brought the topic of "who run the internet" up
>>>> in the agenda of countries around the world.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Fadi is 1 1/2 in. Mandates are of 3 years.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> The openness for ICANN is crucial for our mission.  ICANN is a very
>>>> western centric organization, based on its staff and posture.  3 centers.
>>>> They have implemented Sales Force CRM across the offices to ensure
>>>> questions are answered. ICANN is also creating "engagement centers"
>>>> around the world. Montevideo, Beijing, Geneva, Cairo. Building centers of
>>>> excellence, such as in Delhi and another to come in Africa on youth and
>>>> entrepreneurship and a possible 3rd one in Russia.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> "Ensuring that ICANN is ready to face the responsibilities it has at
>>>> the global level."
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Wants ICANN to be an example of multistakeholderism and openness.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> ICANN is rooted in the pubic interest. Some view may diverge. I am
>>>> think this is we have not acted > he appointed a full time president of
>>>> public responsibility > one of the key elements is education. How to use
>>>> that money in the public interest. This president brought a panel to help
>>>> him develop this strategy.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> An academic meeting in August as a follow-up.  Friday and Saturday in
>>>> Rio. Fadi also wants to do the same with civil society in November.
>>>> Fadi affirms he can help with platform and costs.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Civil society representatives need more strength - ICANN can support
>>>> costs of travel. We have a 133 countries siting at the table and showing at
>>>> every meeting. They are on "equal" footing.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Brazil wont discuss internet principles in general, but principles of
>>>> governance: principles, networks, etc. We will just have 2 days.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> PHASES: Design (the internet ecosystem which will work, this effort
>>>> should end in the Brazil meeting) (hopefully this will be shown as a
>>>> picture. This is a high level document. 10pgs), engineer (this is a second
>>>> phase and it will start in early may and go through the end of the year.
>>>> Take the high level design and develop how it will work. Joi Ito,
>>>> Novack, etc. This needs to give me something that is operationalizable.),
>>>> operation (execution of the plan).
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Fadi are bringing the pieces to create a complex regime that is new,
>>>> synchronized with the nation-state model. We are in a race to ensure that
>>>> the head of states
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> IANA: this was a discussion where only small rooms that US controls
>>>> the Internet. Fadi discussed with his board that ICANN should take the
>>>> oversight from US. It was always know that this was just a matter of time.
>>>> Fadi and his board agreed that ICANN is ready to overtake that
>>>> function and have the public discussion about it. We have strategy panels,
>>>> one led by Vincent Cerf, who is about to release its report saying
>>>> ICANN is mature enough. The question is all about if ICANN is mature
>>>> enough ... and we need a mature civil society. I was invited for the Best
>>>> Bits meeting and it was a great truth meeting.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> He wants us to be sure we all are mature enough to assume all
>>>> functions. And for this to happen Fadi feels we need more and stronger
>>>> civil society. But the stakeholders need engage and be mature, so no other
>>>> country (or all of them) take control of the IANA.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> We are planning the creation of governance networks. How we would come
>>>> together and for a certain issue could include A + B + C. they are dynamic,
>>>> hopefully effective and the involved may vary based on the need.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> March 1st is the deadline for submissions for Brazil mtg in the website"
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> --
>>>> *Carolina Rossini*
>>>> *Project Director, Latin America Resource Center*
>>>> Open Technology Institute
>>>> *New America Foundation*
>>>> //
>>>> http://carolinarossini.net/
>>>> + 1 6176979389
>>>> *carolina.rossini at gmail.com*
>>>> skype: carolrossini
>>>> @carolinarossini
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> *Carolina Rossini*
> *Project Director, Latin America Resource Center*
> Open Technology Institute
> *New America Foundation*
> //
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-- 
*Carolina Rossini*
*Project Director, Latin America Resource Center*
Open Technology Institute
*New America Foundation*
//
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