<div dir="ltr">That is how I also feel</div><div class="gmail_extra"><br><br><div class="gmail_quote">On Thu, Jan 30, 2014 at 11:19 AM, <a href="mailto:genekimmelman@gmail.com">genekimmelman@gmail.com</a> <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:genekimmelman@gmail.com" target="_blank">genekimmelman@gmail.com</a>></span> wrote:<br>
<blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex"><div>Who cares what he thinks. We should submit what we think needs to be addressed in Internet policy! <div><div class="h5">
<br><br><br>-------- Original message --------<br>From: Carolina Rossini <<a href="mailto:carolina.rossini@gmail.com" target="_blank">carolina.rossini@gmail.com</a>> <br>Date: 01/30/2014 11:02 AM (GMT-05:00) <br>To: Joana Varon <<a href="mailto:joana@varonferraz.com" target="_blank">joana@varonferraz.com</a>>,Jochai Ben-Avie <<a href="mailto:jochai@accessnow.org" target="_blank">jochai@accessnow.org</a>> <br>
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Subject: Re: [bestbits] Re: notes from meeting with FADI in DC <br> <br><br><div dir="ltr">- He did not mentioned specific dates for the reports, but he said they are almost done.<div>- I did understand that when he was saying "governance principles" they would be process focus principles. So transparency, multistakeholder, etc would be discussed, but net neutrality and things alike would not (But remember, Fadi impressions have diverged in the past from those of the Brazilian officials). Maybe this is something that should be clarified by the committees. At the end the statement "crafting internet principles" is not that clear (to say the least) </div>
<div>- yes, he did agree HR should be the broader framework for all this</div><div>- I was in a meeting yesterday with folks of the Necessary and Proportionate coalition, and I specifically suggested Katitza (EFF), Jochai (Access) and Mathew (CDT) to submit through the site the N and P principles...</div>
</div><div class="gmail_extra"><br><br><div class="gmail_quote">On Thu, Jan 30, 2014 at 3:05 AM, Joana Varon <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:joana@varonferraz.com" target="_blank">joana@varonferraz.com</a>></span> wrote:<br>
<blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex"><p dir="ltr">Thanks, Carol.<br>
This part brought my attention:</p><div>
<p dir="ltr">"Brazil wont discuss internet principles in general, but principles of governance: principles, networks, etc. We will just have 2 days."</p>
</div><p dir="ltr">+<br>
The addition you guys made on Human Rights and he agreed. </p>
<p dir="ltr">I wonder what is the understanding...is it that there wouldnt be space to debate specific principles such as necessary and proportionate? </p>
<p dir="ltr">Do we have a date for Vint's report? <br><br></p><div><div>
<div class="gmail_quote">On 29 Jan 2014 13:56, "Carolina Rossini" <<a href="mailto:carolina.rossini@gmail.com" target="_blank">carolina.rossini@gmail.com</a>> wrote:<br type="attribution"><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex">
<div dir="ltr">Well, it seems he will growth on his position until this group of social responsability figures out their next steps, but we can clarify<div><br></div><div>Chirs is also moving to DC. </div><div><br></div>
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No bigger context to the meeting besides dialogue. They just called folks from civil society and think tanks in DC to meet, since Fadi was here to speak at STON</div><div><br></div><div>C. </div></div><div class="gmail_extra">
<br><br><div class="gmail_quote">On Wed, Jan 29, 2014 at 10:25 AM, Rafik <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:rafik.dammak@gmail.com" target="_blank">rafik.dammak@gmail.com</a>></span> wrote:<br><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex">
<div bgcolor="#FFFFFF"><div>hi Carolina,</div><div><br></div><div>Thanks for those notes and updates and what was the context of this meeting?</div><div>Btw Chris mondini main task is to engage business, there is no specific staff for civil society :).</div>
<div><br></div><div>Best,</div><div><br></div><div>Rafik<br><br><div><br></div></div><div><br>Le 30 Jan 2014 à 00:10, Carolina <<a href="mailto:carolina.rossini@gmail.com" target="_blank">carolina.rossini@gmail.com</a>> a écrit :<br>
<br></div><div><div><div></div><blockquote type="cite"><div><div>And an important addition, Brett and I brought it up that Human Rights framework should be a core issue to be considered as a base for any principle setting moving forward and Fadi agreed and reinforced it. <br>
<br>Sent from my iPhone</div><div><br>On Jan 29, 2014, at 10:02 AM, Carolina Rossini <<a href="mailto:carolina.rossini@gmail.com" target="_blank">carolina.rossini@gmail.com</a>> wrote:<br><br></div><blockquote type="cite">
<div><div dir="ltr">Dear all,<div><br></div><div>here my notes from what <span>Fadi</span> talked about this morning here in DC. I tried to capture as much as I could his own words. But this are my notes. </div><div>
<br></div><div>They also mentioned new websites:</div><div>* learn.<span>icann</span>.org</div><div>* labs.<span>icann</span>.org</div><div>* new.<span>icann</span>.org</div><div>
<br></div><div>And for contact: Chris <span>Mondini</span> <<span>chris</span>.<span>mondini</span>@<span>icann</span>.org></div><div><br></div><div>Brett from Access was also in the meeting, so he may have complementary notes. </div>
<div><br></div><div>Best, </div><div><br></div><div>Carol</div><div><br></div><div><br></div><div>"This is our first gathering of the DC <span>ICANN</span> office.</div><div><br></div><div><span>Snowden</span>, good or bad, brought the topic of “who run the
internet” up in the agenda of countries around the world.</div>
<p class="MsoNormal"></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"> </p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span>Fadi</span> is 1 ½ in. Mandates are of 3 years. </p>
<p class="MsoNormal"> </p>
<p class="MsoNormal">The openness for <span>ICANN</span> is crucial for our mission. <span>ICANN</span> is a very western centric organization,
based on its staff and posture. 3
centers. They have implemented Sales Force <span>CRM</span> across the offices to ensure
questions are answered. <span>ICANN</span> is also creating “engagement centers” around the
world. Montevideo, Beijing, Geneva, Cairo. Building centers of excellence, such
as in Delhi and another to come in Africa on youth and entrepreneurship and a
possible 3<sup>rd</sup> one in Russia. </p>
<p class="MsoNormal"> </p>
<p class="MsoNormal">“Ensuring that <span>ICANN</span> is ready to face the responsibilities
it has at the global level.”</p>
<p class="MsoNormal"> </p>
<p class="MsoNormal">Wants <span>ICANN</span> to be an example of <span>multistakeholderism</span> and
openness. </p>
<p class="MsoNormal"> </p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span>ICANN</span> is rooted in the pubic interest. Some view may
diverge. I am think this is we have not acted > he appointed a full time
president of public responsibility > one of the key elements is education.
How to use that money in the public interest. This president brought a panel to
help him develop this strategy. </p>
<p class="MsoNormal"> </p>
<p class="MsoNormal">An academic meeting in August as a follow-up. Friday and Saturday in Rio. <span>Fadi</span> also wants
to do the same with civil society in November. <span>Fadi</span> affirms he can help with
platform and costs. </p>
<p class="MsoNormal"> </p>
<p class="MsoNormal">Civil society representatives need more strength – <span>ICANN</span> can
support costs of travel. We have a 133 countries siting at the table and
showing at every meeting. They are on “equal” footing. </p>
<p class="MsoNormal"> </p>
<p class="MsoNormal">Brazil wont discuss <span>internet</span> principles in general, but
principles of governance: principles, networks, etc. We will just have 2 days.</p>
<p class="MsoNormal"> </p>
<p class="MsoNormal">PHASES: Design (the <span>internet</span> ecosystem which will work, this
effort should end in the Brazil meeting) (hopefully this will be shown as a
picture. This is a high level document. 10pgs), engineer (this is a second
phase and it will start in early may and go through the end of the year. Take
the high level design and develop how it will work. <span>Joi</span> Ito, <span>Novack</span>, etc. This
needs to give me something that is <span>operationalizable</span>.), operation (execution of
the plan). </p>
<p class="MsoNormal"> </p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span>Fadi</span> are bringing the pieces to create a complex regime that
is new, synchronized with the nation-state model. We are in a race to ensure
that the head of states </p>
<p class="MsoNormal"> </p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span>IANA</span>: this was a discussion where only small rooms that US
controls the Internet. <span>Fadi</span> discussed with his board that <span>ICANN</span> should take the
oversight from US. It was always know that this was just a matter of time. <span>Fadi</span>
and his board agreed that <span>ICANN</span> is ready to overtake that function and have the
public discussion about it. We have strategy panels, one led by Vincent Cerf,
who is about to release its report saying <span>ICANN</span> is mature enough. The question
is all about if <span>ICANN</span> is mature enough … and we need a mature civil society. I
was invited for the Best Bits meeting and it was a great truth meeting. </p>
<p class="MsoNormal"> </p>
<p class="MsoNormal">He wants us to be sure we all are mature enough to assume
all functions. And for this to happen <span>Fadi</span> feels we need more and stronger
civil society. But the stakeholders need engage and be mature, so no other
country (or all of them) take control of the <span>IANA</span>.</p><p class="MsoNormal"><br></p><p class="MsoNormal">We are planning the creation of governance networks. How we would come together and for a certain issue could include A + B + C. they are dynamic, hopefully effective and the involved may vary based on the need.</p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><br></p><p class="MsoNormal">March 1st is the deadline for submissions for Brazil mtg in the website"</p>
<p class="MsoNormal"> </p>
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