[bestbits] To 1Net or Not to 1Net, let's be clear on the question

michael gurstein gurstein at gmail.com
Sun Jan 12 10:46:22 EST 2014


Bill, as per your below. It would be immeasurably easier "to accept that the
SC will do its best to select if they can't reach consensus themselves" if
the process of nominating for and selecting the SC wasn't so obviously
skewed, restrictive, self-selecting and exclusionary to begin with.

 

M

 

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To save on retyping can I just repeat here what I said on the 1Net list, in
the event there are folks not subscribed there.

 

From: William Drake <wjdrake at gmail.com>

Subject: Re: [discuss] cgi.br release regarding Brazil Global MSM on
Internet Governance

Date: January 12, 2014 at 10:35:12 AM GMT+1

To: Seun Ojedeji <seun.ojedeji at gmail.com>

Cc: Avri Doria <avri at acm.org>, 1Net List <discuss at 1net.org>

 

Hi

 

There's clearly a potential tension here that may not be resolved to
everyone's satisfaction.  For the 1Net SC to only act as a conduit to LOG
per Seun, there'd have to be agreement on which peak associations/networks
can nominate.  But we see not only with CS but also business that there are
folks saying who decided that only xyz peak association/network can
nominate?  So if the SC simply passes along those nominations, it may get
accused of deciding to exclude others, thereby demonstrating that 1Net is a
grand design of dark unaccountable forces to control the universe, etc.

 

If instead we say ok anyone can nominate and the 1Net SC should do due
diligence and select to ensure diversity and inclusion per Avri, then the SC
has to pick among contending nominations.  In which case it may get accused
of deciding to exclude others, thereby demonstrating that 1Net is a grand
design of dark unaccountable forces to control the universe, etc.

 

As a member of the SC, I'm not excited about the prospect of us being put in
position where we will stand accused no matter what we do.  Volunteering to
try and help facilitate a process shouldn't require body armor.  I hope that
the stakeholder groups can either come to some internal consensus on who
nominates on their behalf, or agree to accept that the SC will do its best
to select if they can't reach consensus themselves.  Please let's try to
avoid another stage of representational train wrecks so we can all start to
focus on the Sao Paulo agenda.  The LOG has asked for substantive inputs on
the agenda by March 1.

 

Thanks,

 

Bill

 

On Jan 12, 2014, at 4:07 AM, Avri Doria <avri at ACM.ORG> wrote:







On 11-Jan-14 21:14, Jeremy Malcolm wrote:




Avri (makes a point in a different thread) that the existing members
on the coordination group are not inclusive of broader civil society,


Hmmm, I do not think i said specifically that.

What I thought I said is that civil society is brader than IGC/BB, Diplo,
APC and NCSG.  That we are the early participants.

My point was that if no group with 'standing' submits a counter list of
names for CS, then it is is safe to assume that CS* is being represented by
those involved in Ian's group at this point in time.  And I was not thinking
of this as a rule just for CS but for any stakeholder group.

But if there are reputable, for some definition of reputable, groups who do
have a different view of appropriate candidates, then yes, the /1net
steering group, taking into account any comments from the /1net list, should
make the determination of which candidates should be included in whatever
committee they are trying to fill.

In other words, I find myself in disagreement with the view Ian expressed
and will joining in the counter protest.


avri





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