[bestbits] Best Bits MAG nominations for your approval - URGENT
matthew shears
mshears at cdt.org
Wed Nov 20 11:58:31 EST 2013
Hi Anriette,
Thanks for these important insights. I find this a very bizarre
situation - that CS has to rotate people out despite the fact that most
have not had the opportunity to fill what seems to be commonly accepted
3 year term (would love to know where that may be in writing, however).
In fact short of those who do not wish to continue and voluntarily step
down, I really don't see why any of the CS reps should be rotated out.
This process needs to be based on term limits rather than arbitrary
rotations (and all those who have been on for more than 3 years should
do the right thing and step down).
Matthew
On 20/11/2013 14:27, Anriette Esterhuysen wrote:
> Dear all
>
> It is one of those weeks for me. Sorry.. I have not been able to
> follow this adequately. We are revising proposals, logframes and we
> are having an APC council meeting.
> I just wanted to add one piece of clarification. The current CS MAG
> members have all served for under 2 years, with one exception. For
> reasons that I still don't fully understand, the UN over-rotated CS
> members on the MAG. This had a very dramatic impact on CS's influence
> in the MAG.
>
> Other stakeholder groups have not been as dramatically rotated, and
> there are some individuals that have stayed on since the beginning.
> The reason this happens I can share because I demanded to know and
> managed to get clarification from New York. The reason is that tech
> and business re-nominate people every year, and they give the
> secretariat a 'full slate' that includes names to be retired, and
> names to be added.
>
> Coming back to CS. Here is the current listing of people and the year
> they joined. As you can see, they joined in May 2012 or later, with
> one exception. This does not mean we don't need rotation. There are
> some people that have not worked hard enough for reasons of being too
> busy, unableI to come to meetings (funding is not always available),
> or just lacking confidence. MAG work is not easy. In my view that
> means they should not remain. But there are some people on this list
> who have worked very hard, and who have managed to push through some
> difficult and challenging debates and I do think that it is important
> to keep them.
>
> *_Ms. Esterhuysen, Anriette_*
> <http://www.intgovforum.org/cms/component/content/article/114-preparatory-process/951-mag-bio-esterhuysen>:
> _anriette at apc.org_ <mailto:anriette at apc.org>2012_
> _*_Mr. Aizu, Izumi_*
> <http://www.intgovforum.org/cms/component/content/article/114-preparatory-process/942-mag-bio-aizu>*:
> *_iza at anr.org_ <mailto:iza at anr.org>__2012_
> _*_Mr. Guo, Liang_*
> <http://www.intgovforum.org/cms/component/content/article/114-preparatory-process/954-mag-bio-guo>:
> _guoliang at gmail.com_ <mailto:guoliang at gmail.com>2012_
> _*_Ms. Mangal, Anju_*
> <http://www.intgovforum.org/cms/component/content/article/114-preparatory-process/957-mag-bio-mangal>:
> _anjum at spc.int_ <mailto:anjum at spc.int>2012_
> _*_Ms. Cretu, Veronica: _*_veronica at cretu.md_
> <http://www.intgovforum.org/cms/component/content/article/114-preparatory-process/947-mag-bio-cretu>2012_
> _*_Ms. Kelly, Sanja_*
> <http://www.intgovforum.org/cms/component/content/article/114-preparatory-process/955-mag-bio-kelly>:
> _kelly at freedomhouse.org_ <mailto:kelly at freedomhouse.org>2012_
> _*_Ms. Morenets, Yuliya_*
> <http://www.intgovforum.org/cms/component/content/article/114-preparatory-process/959-mag-bio-morenets->:
> _contact at againstcybercrime.eu_ <mailto:contact at againstcybercrime.eu>2012_
> _*_Mr. Radunovic, Vladimir: _*_vladar at diplomacy.edu**_
> <http://www.intgovforum.org/cms/component/content/article/114-preparatory-process/966-mag-bio-radunoic>__2012_
> __Ms. Zachariah, Desiree: dazachariah at gmail.com _
> <mailto:Ms.Zachariah,Desiree:dazachariah at gmail.com>2013_
> _*_Mr. Drake, William_*
> <http://www.intgovforum.org/cms/component/content/article/114-preparatory-process/949-mag-bio-drake->:
> _william.drake at uzh.ch_ <mailto:william.drake at uzh.ch>2012_
> _*_Ms. Fell, Lucinda_*
> <http://www.intgovforum.org/cms/component/content/article/114-preparatory-process/952-mag-bio-fell>:
> _lucinda at childnet.com_ <mailto:lucinda at childnet.com>2012_
> _*_Ms. Cambronero, Fátima: _*_fatimacambronero at gmail.com_
> <http://www.intgovforum.org/cms/mag/45-mag-membership/1294-ms-fatima-cambronero>2013*__*
> <http://www.intgovforum.org/cms/mag/45-mag-membership/1294-ms-fatima-cambronero>_
> _*_Ms. Nalwoga, Lillian_*
> <http://www.intgovforum.org/cms/component/content/article/114-preparatory-process/960-mag-bio-nalwoga>_lnalwoga at gmail.com_
> <mailto:lnalwoga at gmail.com>2012_
> _*_Ms. Okite, Judith_*
> <http://www.intgovforum.org/cms/component/content/article/114-preparatory-process/961-mag-bio-okite>_judyokite at gmail.com_
> <mailto:judyokite at gmail.com>2012_
> _*_Mr. Al Shatti, Qusai_*
> <http://www.intgovforum.org/cms/index.php/qusai>_qshatti at gmail.com_
> <mailto:qshatti at gmail.com>2006
> Subi Chaturvedi: 2013
>
> Anriette - writing in my capacity as an individual who has served on
> the MAG since May 2012 and who would like to remain for another term.
>
>
> On 20/11/2013 16:09, Joana Varon wrote:
>> Dear all,
>>
>> Please, allow me to raise a suggestion of the broader procedure:
>>
>> I see this issue is getting complicated and sensitive and,
>> particularly reading Mawaki's email, I sense that there is some
>> misunderstandings that are particularly coming up from the fact that
>> part of the people in the list didn't attend BB meeting in Bali and
>> deserve some clarification about what happened there.
>>
>> I know that everybody is really busy as since Bali the pace of events
>> is accelerated (and on my case particularly overwhelmed with Brazil
>> meeting issues), but I might be really useful if the steering make a
>> joined effort to manage to report back from the meeting, particularly
>> about the session on BB structure, so whoever that reads the wiki
>> procedures will also have this background info.
>>
>> In the main while, let's try to trust each other a little bit... I'm
>> pretty totally comfortable to reaffirm that there is a lot of good
>> will within the steering, sometime we stumble in procedures, true, we
>> are all testing methods, its part of the task, but are also truly
>> open for suggestions and to implement changes. So, please, be sure
>> concerns raised here are being heard. Let's just not block important
>> things to get done.
>>
>> Therefore, I would suggest that we keep this thread to at least have
>> the list of people that BB would like to suggest, having in mind the
>> issue raised about indicating or not people that are already there.
>> Deciding if it is going through IGC or not would be the next
>> (complicated) step.
>>
>> all the best
>>
>> joana
>>
>>
>>
>> On Wed, Nov 20, 2013 at 10:04 AM, Marianne Franklin
>> <m.i.franklin at gold.ac.uk <mailto:m.i.franklin at gold.ac.uk>> wrote:
>>
>> Dear all
>>
>> Could I suggest that all the names of anyone going up for the MAG
>> from both current slates (i.e. run by the IGC and being collated
>> through Best Bits) be posted so that we can inform other networks
>> of who is standing.
>>
>> Whether they are looking to stand as an IGC nominee or Best Bits
>> nominee can be noted.
>>
>> Ongoing, and important discussions about the Best Bits governance
>> structure need to continue, and as a member of the interim BB
>> Steering as well as co-Chair of the IRP Coalition I support the
>> need for clarity here too. But right at this moment as the list
>> and candidates form, it would be good for anyone else considering
>> standing for the MAG to know who is currently doing so. If a
>> person is standing in two places could they nominate which one
>> they are opting for too to save space and time?
>>
>> Also, I join those affirmations of the work done by all standing
>> MAG members, in this case from civil society, who are continuing.
>> Thank you all for the hard and often unrewarded and unrelenting
>> work on this group.
>>
>> best
>> MF
>>
>>
>>
>> On 20/11/2013 10:17, Jeremy Malcolm wrote:
>>> (Replying from phone.) I had suggested off this list that we
>>> omit any mention of the incumbent MAG members and limit our
>>> candidates to those who will fill slots that will be open
>>> anyway. If we clarify that we support the continuation of the
>>> candidates who are eligible for continuing, and drop the
>>> specific candidates mentioned, this may help?
>>>
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>>> On 20 Nov 2013, at 6:10 pm, Poncelet Ileleji <pileleji at ymca.gm
>>> <mailto:pileleji at ymca.gm>> wrote:
>>>
>>>> Hello Colleagues,
>>>>
>>>> Good day, I think its important for continuity especially as in
>>>> my opinion the current CS MAG members are doing a great work
>>>> and have really put in a lot of time to this , I concur will
>>>> Bill and strongly belief in the overall continuity of all
>>>> current CS MAG members
>>>>
>>>> Regards
>>>>
>>>> Poncelet
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> On 20 November 2013 10:05, William Drake <william.drake at uzh.ch
>>>> <mailto:william.drake at uzh.ch>> wrote:
>>>>
>>>> Hi
>>>>
>>>> Just woke up and am rushing to a meeting but would
>>>> appreciate clarification. When was the call for
>>>> nominations, when was the deadline for submission, and when
>>>> was the period in which list members then expressed views
>>>> either way before you decided to go ahead? Some of us are
>>>> a bit busy in Buenos Aires dealing with Brazil meeting and
>>>> such and are awash in a tidal wave of communications and
>>>> meetings, so I at least missed all this.
>>>>
>>>> By selecting these six names, including just two current CS
>>>> MAG members, do you wish to convey to the Secretariat and
>>>> DESA that you do not support the continued participation of
>>>> all the current CS MAG members not listed, irrespective of
>>>> the time and work they’ve put in, how long they’ve been
>>>> been on it, etc?
>>>>
>>>> It seems unduly abrupt, so please note my objection as well.
>>>>
>>>> Thanks
>>>>
>>>> Bill
>>>>
>>>> On Nov 20, 2013, at 4:15 AM, Jeremy Malcolm
>>>> <jeremy at ciroap.org <mailto:jeremy at ciroap.org>> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> On 20 Nov 2013, at 1:25 pm, parminder
>>>>> <parminder at itforchange.net
>>>>> <mailto:parminder at itforchange.net>> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> As said before, I do not agree to steering committee
>>>>>> choosing MAG nominees, or other kinds of reps, or next
>>>>>> steering committee's membership, and so on.... These are
>>>>>> serious. important issues which should have a clear,
>>>>>> transparent, accountable and thus legitimate process
>>>>>> around it. And I dont see that in place.
>>>>>
>>>>> We have not chosen the MAG nominees, we have simply
>>>>> collected the nominations, suggested criteria that could
>>>>> be used to evaluate them, and forwarded them back to the
>>>>> main list with a recommendation. Although your objection
>>>>> was noted, most others were comfortable with this process
>>>>> and since we do not have voting or membership as such, we
>>>>> decided to go ahead. If appropriate your objection could
>>>>> probably be noted in some way in the letter that goes to
>>>>> the MAG.
>>>>>
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