[bestbits] International civil society letter to Congress to follow up from HRC statement

[Marianne Franklin]

HI

+1 about how human rights and principles for the internet/internet rights are human rights are integral to these struggles; locally, nationally and globally!

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thanks Joana ..
also +1 on the terminology - thanks Anja for raising it. Jeremy: I would have thought that ["internet rights" are human rights] is an advantage, rather than disadvantage, since "human rights" encompasses some of the wider reasons why some at least work in this area (per Anja's comments).
Joy
On 13/06/2013 12:55 p.m., Joana Varon wrote:
> Dear all,

      >

      > Thanks a lot for all the efforts to reach a balance on all
      this.

      >

      > +1 about the points on the terminology raised by Anja,
      Anriette, Avri and Jeremy

      >

      > +1 for Kevin suggestions on whistleblower

      >

      > +1 for the additions made by Cynthia on the requests to be
      made to US Congress

      >

      > +1 about thinking in a more specific way to identify our
      organizations (Will something like this be enough? "civil society
      organizations focused on the implications of internet policies in
      the exercise of fundamental human rights" ... dont know if
      "internet policies" is enough though)

      >

      > Thanks Joy for the clarifications on NZ whistleblower..
      looking forward from APC news on what to do in a broader sense
      regarding this complicated issue.

      >

      > all the best

      >

      > joana

      >

      > On Thu, Jun 13, 2013 at 12:34 AM, Jeremy Malcolm
      <jeremy at ciroap.org<mailto:jeremy at ciroap.org> <mailto:jeremy at ciroap.org><mailto:jeremy at ciroap.org>> wrote:

      >

      >     On 13/06/2013, at 3:47 AM, Avri Doria <avri at ella.com<mailto:avri at ella.com>
      <mailto:avri at ella.com><mailto:avri at ella.com>> wrote:

      >

      >>     On 12 Jun 2013, at 15:25, Anja Kovacs wrote:

      >>

      >>>     I can see that in this particular statement, we
      would want to think carefully about which concerns to highlight
      and how to frame them, so as to provide as much support as
      possible to the current momentum. But I do think there are certain
      non-negotiables if a wide sign up to this statement is desired.
      For example, at last year's Best Bits meeting, we already had a
      discussion on how few of us in the Global South use the term
      "Internet freedom" to describe the work we do for a whole range of
      highly political reasons and so I would think not using that term
      is one such non-negotiable. As long as we take such issues into
      account, I am sure a sound compromise can be reached that will
      make for a strong statement acceptable to all.

      >>

      >>     i think the term has become somewhat tainted by its
      use as a US-referent  political meme.

      >>     so finding another way to describe Freedoms
      of/on/via/by the Internet might be a good idea.

      >

      >     +1.  I have been saying the same thing for a while
      (https://twitter.com/qirtaiba/status/303409261923405824), but the
      PRISM scandal has cemented this.  The Best Bits website says
      "Internet governance and Internet rights".  Neither of those are
      perfect either.  The disadvantage of "Internet governance" is that
      a lot of people think it means naming and numbering.  The
      disadvantage of "Internet rights" is that (with a nod to APC)
      Internet rights are human rights.

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