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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D">+1 about how human rights and principles for the internet/internet rights are human rights are integral to these struggles; locally, nationally and globally!<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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[mailto:bestbits-request@lists.bestbits.net] <b>On Behalf Of </b>joy<br>
<b>Sent:</b> 13 June 2013 03:27<br>
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<b>Subject:</b> Re: [bestbits] International civil society letter to Congress to follow up from HRC statement<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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thanks Joana ..<br>
also +1 on the terminology - thanks Anja for raising it. Jeremy: I would have thought that ["internet rights" are human rights] is an advantage, rather than disadvantage, since "human rights" encompasses some of the wider reasons why some at least work in this
area (per Anja's comments).<br>
Joy<br>
On 13/06/2013 12:55 p.m., Joana Varon wrote:<br>
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<p class="MsoNormal"> > Thanks a lot for all the efforts to reach a balance on all<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"> this.<br>
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<p class="MsoNormal"> > +1 about the points on the terminology raised by Anja,<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"> Anriette, Avri and Jeremy<br>
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<p class="MsoNormal"> > +1 for Kevin suggestions on whistleblower<br>
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<p class="MsoNormal"> > +1 for the additions made by Cynthia on the requests to be<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"> made to US Congress<br>
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<p class="MsoNormal"> > +1 about thinking in a more specific way to identify our<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"> organizations (Will something like this be enough? "civil society<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"> organizations focused on the implications of internet policies in<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"> the exercise of fundamental human rights" ... dont know if<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"> "internet policies" is enough though)<br>
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<p class="MsoNormal"> ><br>
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<p class="MsoNormal"> > Thanks Joy for the clarifications on NZ whistleblower..<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"> looking forward from APC news on what to do in a broader sense<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"> regarding this complicated issue.<br>
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<p class="MsoNormal"> > all the best<br>
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<p class="MsoNormal"> > joana<br>
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<p class="MsoNormal"> > On Thu, Jun 13, 2013 at 12:34 AM, Jeremy Malcolm<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"> <<a href="mailto:jeremy@ciroap.org">jeremy@ciroap.org</a>
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<p class="MsoNormal"> > On 13/06/2013, at 3:47 AM, Avri Doria <<a href="mailto:avri@ella.com">avri@ella.com</a><o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"> >> On 12 Jun 2013, at 15:25, Anja Kovacs wrote:<br>
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<p class="MsoNormal"> >>> I can see that in this particular statement, we<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"> would want to think carefully about which concerns to highlight<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"> possible to the current momentum. But I do think there are certain<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"> non-negotiables if a wide sign up to this statement is desired.<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"> For example, at last year's Best Bits meeting, we already had a<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"> discussion on how few of us in the Global South use the term<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"> "Internet freedom" to describe the work we do for a whole range of<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"> highly political reasons and so I would think not using that term<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"> is one such non-negotiable. As long as we take such issues into<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"> account, I am sure a sound compromise can be reached that will<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"> make for a strong statement acceptable to all.<br>
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<p class="MsoNormal"> >><br>
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<p class="MsoNormal"> >> i think the term has become somewhat tainted by its<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"> use as a US-referent political meme. <br>
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<p class="MsoNormal"> >> so finding another way to describe Freedoms<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"> of/on/via/by the Internet might be a good idea. <br>
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<p class="MsoNormal"> ><br>
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<p class="MsoNormal"> > +1. I have been saying the same thing for a while<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"> (<a href="https://twitter.com/qirtaiba/status/303409261923405824">https://twitter.com/qirtaiba/status/303409261923405824</a>), but the<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"> PRISM scandal has cemented this. The Best Bits website says<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"> "Internet governance and Internet rights". Neither of those are<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"> perfect either. The disadvantage of "Internet governance" is that<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"> a lot of people think it means naming and numbering. The<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"> disadvantage of "Internet rights" is that (with a nod to APC)<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"> Internet rights are human rights.<br>
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