[governance] End to End encryption (was: Fwd: FB open letter e2e update...)

Thu Oct 10 03:07:24 EDT 2019

Dear all,

I heard back from Joe and he said that the deadline had passed,
unfortunately. However, I understand quite a few IGC members signed up and
it is great to see the large number of signatories!

Best
Sheetal

On Tue, 8 Oct 2019 at 14:56, Salanieta T. Tamanikaiwaimaro <
salanieta.tamanikaiwaimaro at gmail.com> wrote:

> Hi Sheetal,
>
> Please go ahead and send the email to Joe but as Olivier mentioned there
> may still be time till Monday, do an open call to ask people as has already
> been done and wait for any objection. By Sunday, if there is consensus let
> Joe know. Essentially, the content is non controversial so should be easy.
>
> All the best.
>
> Sala
>
> On Tue, 8 Oct 2019, 11:41 am Sheetal Kumar, <sheetal at gp-digital.org>
> wrote:
>
>> Dear Salanieta, all,
>>
>> Could we check with Joe at CDT whether the deadline has been extended?
>> And if we find out we can ask the list whether there are any objections to
>> signing on within whatever timeframe is provided.
>>
>> I'm happy to get in touch with Joe.
>>
>> Best
>> Sheetal.
>>
>> On Tue, 8 Oct 2019 at 08:20, "Salanieta T. Tamanikaiwaimaro" <
>> governance at lists.riseup.net> wrote:
>>
>>> We have signed on, the three organisations I am a part of. Hope others
>>> do too by sending Joe an email.
>>>
>>> On Mon, 7 Oct 2019, 10:01 pm Ian Peter, <ian.peter at ianpeter.com> wrote:
>>>
>>>> Oops - looking again, this seems to have already closed....
>>>>
>>>> Ian
>>>>
>>>> ------ Original Message ------
>>>> From: "Ian Peter" <ian.peter at ianpeter.com>
>>>> To: salanieta.tamanikaiwaimaro at gmail.com; "Olivier MJ Crepin-Leblond" <
>>>> ocl at gih.com>
>>>> Cc: "governance" <governance at lists.riseup.net>
>>>> Sent: 8/10/2019 7:53:44 AM
>>>> Subject: Re[2]: [governance] End to End encryption (was: Fwd: FB open
>>>> letter e2e update...)
>>>>
>>>> I support Sala's proposal that IGC signs on - however we have a
>>>> deadline of Monday - can we come to a quick decision to do so before then?
>>>> I guess an early question is whether anyone here is opposed to IGC signing
>>>> on?
>>>>
>>>> In the mean time individual organisations here should sign on if they
>>>> wish as per details below.
>>>>
>>>> Ian
>>>>
>>>> ------ Original Message ------
>>>> From: "Salanieta T. Tamanikaiwaimaro" <governance at lists.riseup.net>
>>>> To: "Olivier MJ Crepin-Leblond" <ocl at gih.com>
>>>> Cc: "governance" <governance at lists.riseup.net>
>>>> Sent: 8/10/2019 7:36:00 AM
>>>> Subject: Re: [governance] End to End encryption (was: Fwd: FB open
>>>> letter e2e update...)
>>>>
>>>> Thanks Olivier.
>>>> I propose that the IGC signs on.
>>>>
>>>> On Mon, 7 Oct 2019, 3:06 pm Olivier MJ Crépin-Leblond, <ocl at gih.com>
>>>> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> Dear colleagues and friends,
>>>>>
>>>>> this is to let you know that an open letter initiated by CDT is
>>>>> currently in the signature stage. I am surprised this discussion hasn't
>>>>> made it to the IGC mailing list through other channels, especially given
>>>>> the short notice. Please give this a consideration, that the concept of
>>>>> "backdoors" provide a malicious actor with a single point of entry, a
>>>>> weakness in the security systems that secure our privacy and transactions.
>>>>> Kindest regards,
>>>>>
>>>>> Olivier
>>>>> (my own views)
>>>>>
>>>>> -------- Forwarded Message --------
>>>>> Subject: FB open letter e2e update...
>>>>> Date: Sat, 5 Oct 2019 09:58:18 -0400
>>>>> From: Joseph Lorenzo Hall <joe at cdt.org> <joe at cdt.org>
>>>>> To: Joe Hall <jhall at cdt.org> <jhall at cdt.org>, Emma Llanso
>>>>> <ellanso at cdt.org> <ellanso at cdt.org>
>>>>>
>>>>> Fellow encryption advocates,
>>>>>
>>>>> First, thank you all and your organizations for signing on to the open
>>>>> letter to Facebook on end-to-end encryption.
>>>>>
>>>>> We released the first version of this letter at 12:30 US Eastern
>>>>> yesterday, with 59 organizations signed on [1]. We're currently at 69
>>>>> organizations in total, with a few others trying to get through complicated
>>>>> clearance processes this weekend.
>>>>>
>>>>> We'd love to get any civil society and digital rights organizations
>>>>> that might feel similarly as all of us about the importance of the "digital
>>>>> glue" that holds up the Internet and digital devices. We have set a
>>>>> deadline of 23:59 UTC on Monday (17:00 US Pacific), so please feel free to
>>>>> send the document link (privately or on lists) to others you think might
>>>>> want to sign on, and have them send me email if they would like to be added:
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> https://docs.google.com/document/d/1r97TeH8WsH5xyetolg-ejTTrvzWEMYiznu0WQ0YsaGM/edit
>>>>>
>>>>> (The language is set given how many signatories we have.)
>>>>>
>>>>> On Monday, we will close the letter and post a final HTML and PDF
>>>>> versions of the letter with what I suspect will be an amazing showing of
>>>>> solidarity for strong security for massive platforms like those that
>>>>> Facebook controls.
>>>>>
>>>>> Please take care of yourselves and have a good weekend, Joe
>>>>>
>>>>> [1]:
>>>>> https://cdt.org/insight/open-letter-facebooks-end-to-end-encryption-plans/
>>>>>
>>>>> --
>>>>> Joseph Lorenzo Hall
>>>>> Chief Technologist, Center for Democracy & Technology [
>>>>> https://www.cdt.org]
>>>>> 1401 K ST NW STE 200, Washington DC 20005-3497
>>>>> e: joe at cdt.org, p: 202.407.8825, pgp: https://josephhall.org/gpg-key
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>>
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