[governance] FW: Facebook’s Oversight Board: A toothless Supreme Court?

parminder parminder at itforchange.net
Thu Oct 3 20:52:33 EDT 2019


I remember how many years back people on this list, and I can distinctly
recall my friend Bertrand de la Chapelle for instance advocate this ,
that, and I paraphrase, facebook 'community' itself is a distinct social
and perhaps political entity, and how we should focus on its community
self governance and so on ..... These, what we talk about now, are
chicken coming home to roost .... We propagated this lawless digital
world of self-regulation and big corporation vetoes for quite a long
time. Why rue it now...

Yes, some politicians may be making the right notes, but what notes is
the IG civil society making, still!

My ironical comments - and I apologise for that -- are towards the
practical purpose of exhorting the IG civil society to make a real and
strong reassessment of what their single-minded devotionto just one
thing of multi-stakeholderism and self-regulation has brought the world
to, and what amends can we make at this stage. We bear a responsibility
to the world.

parminder


On 04/10/19 2:59 AM, Ian Peter wrote:
> [IGP Announce] Facebook’s Oversight Board: A toothless Supreme Court?
> Well, hardly a supreme court! 
>
> From what I read this body just looks at one issue - content
> moderation. This is often a culture-specific issue - what should be
> taken down in some cultures is perfectly OK in many others. Good luck
> to them in achieving anything more than the decades of debate on this
> subject have. Where there is global agreement on offensive content, I
> am not sure this board will be able to add any value.
>
> But thats hardly the point. Facebook will claim that this is an
> example of how it is being consultative and involving of its
> community, and how this makes it a model corporate player. People will
> buy this spin, and issues which Facebook refuses to address through
> this or any other body such as data monetisation and other uses of
> personal data will be swept under the carpet and forgotten - at least
> in the FB spin.
>
> I think the question for us is how we keep the bigger issues from
> being forgotten in this context. I hear one US presidential hopeful
> (Eliz abeth Warren) is raising the subjects, but some powerful Wall
> Street based Democrat financial supporters are threatening not to back
> her because of this. 
>
> Data  monetisation and surveillance capitalism are big issues not
> being addressed adequately anywhere yet. I hope we can raise this
> issue effectively.
>
> Ian Peter
>
>
>
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>> A week and a half ago Facebook released its final charter for the
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