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<p><font face="Verdana">I remember how many years back people on
this list, and I can distinctly recall my friend Bertrand de la
Chapelle </font><font face="Verdana">for instance </font><font
face="Verdana">advocate this , that, and I paraphrase, facebook
'community' itself is a distinct social and perhaps political
entity, and how we should focus on its community self governance
and so on ..... These, what we talk about now, are chicken
coming home to roost .... </font>We propagated this lawless
digital world of self-regulation and big corporation vetoes for
quite a long time. Why rue it now...</p>
<p>Yes, some politicians may be making the right notes, but what
notes is the IG civil society making, still!</p>
<p>My ironical comments - and I apologise for that -- are towards
the practical purpose of exhorting the IG civil society to make a
real and strong reassessment of what their single-minded
devotionto just one thing of multi-stakeholderism and
self-regulation has brought the world to, and what amends can we
make at this stage. We bear a responsibility to the world.</p>
<p>parminder <br>
</p>
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</p>
<div class="moz-cite-prefix">On 04/10/19 2:59 AM, Ian Peter wrote:<br>
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<div>Well, hardly a supreme court! </div>
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<div>From what I read this body just looks at one issue - content
moderation. This is often a culture-specific issue - what should
be taken down in some cultures is perfectly OK in many others.
Good luck to them in achieving anything more than the decades of
debate on this subject have. Where there is global agreement on
offensive content, I am not sure this board will be able to add
any value.</div>
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<div>But thats hardly the point. Facebook will claim that this is
an example of how it is being consultative and involving of its
community, and how this makes it a model corporate player.
People will buy this spin, and issues which Facebook refuses to
address through this or any other body such as data monetisation
and other uses of personal data will be swept under the carpet
and forgotten - at least in the FB spin.</div>
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<div>I think the question for us is how we keep the bigger issues
from being forgotten in this context. I hear one US presidential
hopeful (Eliz abeth Warren) is raising the subjects, but some
powerful Wall Street based Democrat financial supporters are
threatening not to back her because of this. </div>
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<div>Data monetisation and surveillance capitalism are big issues
not being addressed adequately anywhere yet. I hope we can raise
this issue effectively.</div>
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<div>Ian Peter</div>
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<div>To: "governance" <<a
href="mailto:governance@lists.riseup.net"
moz-do-not-send="true">governance@lists.riseup.net</a>></div>
<div>Sent: 3/10/2019 11:56:10 PM</div>
<div>Subject: [governance] FW: Facebook’s Oversight Board: A
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Morar
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week and a
half ago
Facebook
released its
final charter
for the
Oversight
Board it
intends to
create to
tackle its
content
moderation
problems. The
charter spells
out exactly
how it would
work, who
would be on it
and what its
responsibilities
are. CNET has
a good basic
description of
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