[governance] Good examples of muiltistakeholder policy development at a national level?

Wed Nov 20 15:44:12 EST 2019

Was the sale of PIR one of those moments in which a multistakeholder 
process was "appropriate"?  If not, why not?

-mf

On Tue, 19 Nov 2019, Dr. Alejandro Pisanty Baruch wrote:

> Ian,
> ISOC is not constituted in a way that it has to develop multistakeholder approaches for all its processes; to begin with, it is not structured around stakeholder
> groups. 
> 
> What counts is its track record and ongoing participation in building up multistakeholder proceses where applicable, and its experience in helping structure each
> of them according to purpose, membership, and resources; that record is pretty good. Long ago - a decade or so - we developed a WSIS-o-meter and the mechanisms
> in which ISOC has taken part in design and/or operation graded way above any other.
> 
> Let me again suggest that people look at what we now call multistakeholder processes in fields other than Internet governance for a better understanding. 
> 
> Alejandro Pisanty
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> Desde: governance-request at lists.riseup.net [governance-request at lists.riseup.net] en nombre de Ian Peter [ian.peter at ianpeter.com]
> Enviado el: lunes, 18 de noviembre de 2019 21:44
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> Asunto: Re: [governance] Good examples of muiltistakeholder policy development at a national level?
> 
> Hi Sylvain,
> 
> I dont think the Internet Society has any inclusive, multistakeholder or bottom up approach. I don't think it even pretends to any more.
> 
> But perhaps things might change, we live in hope.
> 
> For anyone who is not aware of the recent sale of the Public Interest Registry by ISOC to a for profit venture capital company, happy to provide some references.
> It is being discussed in a few places, perhaps a response here might be appropriate as well (but please start a new topic!)
> 
> Ian Peter
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> ------ Original Message ------
> From: "Sylvain Baya" <governance at lists.riseup.net>
> To: "IGCaucus" <governance at lists.riseup.net>
> Sent: 18/11/2019 11:16:42 PM
> Subject: [governance] Good examples of muiltistakeholder policy development at a national level?
>
>       Hi all,
> Hope you are well.
> ...i'm following this thread from the beginning and, i found it instructive. So thanks to y'all !
> 
> I want to add more variance (maybe off-topic; then i apologize), if allowed, please :-)
> 
> ...so, question : 
> What about the implementation of inclusiveness/multistakeholder, and bottom-up approach, by 
> InternetSociety.ORG ?
> 
> Thanks.
> 
> Shalom,
> --sb.
> 
> Le lundi 4 novembre 2019, Ian Peter <ian.peter at ianpeter.com> a écrit :
>       Yes, the discussion sure has varied, but lots of interesting inputs.
> 
> I found Miltons history of multistakeholderism quite interesting - in that the term was not invented to apply at a national level where presumably
> things were always going well, but was intended to apply to the global dimension where there was a presumed problem.
> 
> Nevertheless - how do we get civil society involved effectively at a national level? Lots of interesting examples here, but it would be great to pull
> out some best practice examples, or some principles for civil society involvement, that  people could use to suggest to their governments effective
> ways of doing things.
> 
> Ian
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> ------ Original Message ------
> From: "Andrés Piazza" <governance at lists.riseup.net>
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> Cc: 6.internet at gmail.com; "Izumi Aizu" <iza at anr.org>; "Ang Peng Hwa (Prof)" <TPHANG at ntu.edu.sg>; "CWCS (IGC)" <governance at lists.riseup.net>
> Sent: 4/11/2019 10:44:23 AM
> Subject: Re: [governance] Good examples of muiltistakeholder policy development at a national level?
>
>       Despite the original purpose of this discussion has evolved, I still wanted to name the IXPs in Argentina with CABASE adding other
>       stakeholders and, more recently, multisectorial Blockchain initiative BFA.AR 
> 
> Andrés
> 
> El dom., 3 nov. 2019 a las 13:18, Arsène Tungali (<governance at lists.riseup.net>) escribió:
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