[governance] That i* organizations' statement re. "social responsibility" of technical design?

Dr. Alejandro Pisanty Baruch apisan at unam.mx
Sun Nov 10 20:50:51 EST 2019


Mawaki,

this work has extended too far now to account for every part of it. The IETF started its work on "perpass" (pervasive passive surveillance, recognized as a threat) in 2013 or so, which means that the discussions to attend to this risk started way earlier. From it spawned several lines of work, both in the IETF and further out. Some of them were the strong move to encryption with TLS, the push by many organizations to only accept Web traffic with HTTPS, and all the way to the ongoing process regarding DNS over HTTPS (DoH) which encrypts DNS traffic so that even ISPs can't see it. You may be aware that there is a significant quid pro quo in network management and human rights when this is done. Mozilla is the most visible party engaging in favor of DoH at this time.

Lots more is and has been done both at the standards and in the operational level. This is but a quick summary trying to bridge what is alreay more than six years. Much of it can be traced to the ISOC initiative Anriette has already written about.

Alejandro Pisanty




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Desde: governance-request at lists.riseup.net [governance-request at lists.riseup.net] en nombre de Mawaki Chango [governance at lists.riseup.net]
Enviado el: domingo, 10 de noviembre de 2019 03:35
Hasta: governance; internetpolicy at elists.isoc.org
Asunto: Re: [governance] That i* organizations' statement re. "social responsibility" of technical design?

The other side of this question I was seeking to find out about is the possible effects, if any, of this step (resolution?) taken by the i* organizations on standard and protocol development as well as technology design. Is anyone aware of any sequels or impact, first in the work of the technical community and possibly beyond? For instance, there are now RFCs addressing guidelines for privacy and even human rights considerations: not sure whether there had ever been any such language in RFC development and whether this would have been possible before the Montevideo Statement (or the NSA surveillance scandal.)

Thanks,

Mawaki






On Sat, Nov 9, 2019 at 11:05 PM Mawaki Chango <kichango at gmail.com<mailto:kichango at gmail.com>> wrote:
Thanks, Anriette! It seems that my memory was just giving this Statement more than it actually holds.

Mawaki




On Sat, Nov 9, 2019 at 10:48 PM Anriette Esterhuysen <anriette at apc.org<mailto:anriette at apc.org>> wrote:

Your memory is fine, Mawaki. It was the Montevideo Statement:

https://www.icann.org/news/announcement-2013-10-07-en

https://ccdcoe.org/incyder-articles/montevideo-statement-and-global-government-surveillance-reform-responses-to-government-surveillance-activities/

Anriette

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On 2019/11/09 15:18, Mawaki Chango (via governance Mailing List) wrote:
Dear All,

I seem to remember that in the aftermath of the NSA surveillance scandal (pre-NETmundial), the i* organizations got together and put out a statement that seemed to recognize for the first time that technology is not purely "agnostic" with regard to social values (e.g., rights that we think should be valued in the kind of society we want to live in) and that those values need to be kept in mind in the work of technical standards development and technology design.

Is my memory being faulty here, or was there such a thing? Could anyone point me to that declaration? And if this ever was, what has become of it? As I was searching I came across the Montevideo statement but it doesn't appear to specifically address the issue above.

Thanks in advance!

Mawaki


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