[governance] PIR Case/or the .org sell

Niels ten Oever lists at digitaldissidents.org
Thu Nov 28 10:34:23 EST 2019


On 11/28/19 4:22 PM, James Gannon wrote:
> Without commenting on the details just want to call out that we had a statement from ISOC BoT members yesterday that less than 1% of .org registrations sit with not for profits, food for thought in these dicsussions on impact.

Even if this were true (source?), this should be offset against the size of the not-for-profit vs for-profit .org websites in terms of visitors (think wikipedia.org, mozilla.org, etc).

Best,

Niels



> 
> On 28.11.19, 14:57, "governance-request at lists.riseup.net on behalf of Norbert Bollow" <governance-request at lists.riseup.net on behalf of nb at bollow.ch> wrote:
> 
>     On Thu, 28 Nov 2019 14:53:07 +0200
>     Amr Elsadr <aelsadr at egyptig.org> wrote:
>     
>     > On Nov 28, 2019, at 2:24 PM, Norbert Bollow <nb at bollow.ch> wrote:
>     > > Vint Cerf has been quoted [0] with the statement, “Hard to imagine
>     > > that $60/year would be a deal breaker for even small non-profits.”
>     > > [0] https://www.theregister.co.uk/2019/11/26/org_selloff_internet/
>     >
>     > The question about potential increases in the price of .org
>     > registrations are addressed here: https://www.keypointsabout.org
>     > <https://www.keypointsabout.org/>
>     > 
>     > > A related question is whether there is anything in the rules that
>     > > would prevent price differentiation [...]
>     > Yes, there is something in the .org Registry Agreement
>     > <https://www.icann.org/sites/default/files/tlds/org/org-agmt-html-30jun19-en.htm>
>     > (rules) that prevents this. Specifically, Article 2.10(c), which says:
>     > [..]
>     >
>     > I hope this helps.
>     
>     Thank you, yes. So it seems that the new owners of .org plan to hike
>     the .org domain prices relatively slowly, and they are required to do
>     it uniformly. They probably hope to avoid, as much as possible, any
>     single major shitstorm - while still maximizing their profits (by means
>     of taking the money from nonprofits which are to a large part funded by
>     donations).
>     
>     Greetings,
>     Norbert
>     
> 
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