[governance] PIR Case/or the .org sell

[Bill Woodcock]

I may surprise many by saying that I find Milton’s analysis to be the most cogent and to-the-point thus far. Outcomes are what matter, not whose idea it was or who was in the room. Milton focuses on outcomes, and I agree that do Mainers are the only ones actually hardened here, and that’s fine with me. 

One very small correction though... PIR is not a wholly-owned subsidiary of ISOC (though I thought that as well up until I looked into it last week). Instead, they’re each independently incorporated as non-profits, with the ISOC board seating the PIR board. That is, the “membership” of PIR is the ISOC board. 
    
                -Bill


> On Nov 27, 2019, at 13:23, Mueller, Milton L <milton at gatech.edu> wrote:
> 
> A link to the blog post from Internet Governance Project (IGP) on the .ORG sale, which proposes come constructive changes:
> https://www.internetgovernance.org/2019/11/25/what-to-do-about-org/
> 
> Dr. Milton L Mueller
> Georgia Institute of Technology
> School of Public Policy
> Internet Governance Project 
> 
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> ----Original Message-----
> From: governance-request at lists.riseup.net <governance-request at lists.riseup.net> On Behalf Of Ayden Férdeline
> Sent: Wednesday, November 27, 2019 5:33 AM
> To: Bill Woodcock <woody at pch.net>
> Cc: bruna.mrtns at gmail.com; Sheetal Kumar <sheetal at gp-digital.org>; governance <governance at lists.riseup.net>
> Subject: Re: [governance] PIR Case/or the .org sell
> 
> Dear Bill,
> 
> Yes, I have heard the counter argument, which is that this sale will provide ISOC with additional and more-stable funding. Is there another one? I'm afraid I don't find it persuasive. ISOC is proposing to sell out the non-commercial community for its own private greed. A wealthy ISOC is in the interests of ISOC, and not the Internet community as a whole.
> 
> Best wishes,
> 
> Ayden Férdeline
> 
> 
> ‐‐‐‐‐‐‐ Original Message ‐‐‐‐‐‐‐
>> On Wednesday, 27 November 2019 11:26, Bill Woodcock <woody at pch.net> wrote:
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>>>> On Nov 27, 2019, at 11:22 AM, Ayden Férdeline ayden at ferdeline.com wrote:
>>> The Register reports today that "both ISOC and ICANN are driving the sale forward as fast as possible in the background and refusing to consider counter-arguments until it’s done". I could not be more disappointed in ISOC.
>> 
>> And are you considering counter-arguments? Because I haven’t heard any consideration of them here. Just one-sided monologue, which isn’t a way to develop a considered or informed position.
>> 
>> -Bill
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