[governance] Fwd: [IGFmaglist] IGF - World Economic Forum (WEF) Collaboration Discussion Document

Mon Feb 11 11:04:23 EST 2019

I understand the positive spirit here, Arsene, but before you get to that
question you need to consider the genesis of this request and first
understand where it comes from. If it comes from the WEF, then it should be
an obvious thing for them to know the reason why they find that partnership
desirable and let us know. If it someone else wanting and pushing for that
partnership then the question (to that person or entity) becomes why
particularly or only WEF? Why not WSF, as parminder pointed out, why not a
call to all stakeholders who are willing to contribute something more
within a general framework?

So yes, before going to the "Why not?" or before one could even
appropriately answer your questions relating to the "Why not?", one needs
to understand the real origin and motivation of the request. Otherwise, we
might as well as them to make a general call to all stakeholders after
defining a clear framework of engagement (which is not to be done on the
fly.)

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On Mon, Feb 11, 2019 at 3:25 PM Arsène Tungali <governance at lists.riseup.net>
wrote:

> Thanks, everyone for sharing your thoughts here, this thread is mostly
> for your information as well as to see what members think about this
> discussion on the MAG.
>
> My impression so far is that many of the reactions here are mostly
> turning on the side of WHY the WEF?
>
> I would like to suggest us to also think on the "WHY NOT"? Is there
> anything fundamental that is wrong with the WEF that would endanger
> any possible collaboration with the IGF? Can we think on that
> direction as well?
>
> Are there other organizations you feel would be problematic should
> they seek any formal form of collaboration with the IGF?
>
> 2019-02-11 17:03 UTC+02:00, Michael J. Oghia <mike.oghia at gmail.com>:
> > Hi Arsene,
> >
> > Thanks for sharing this with us. In line with what has already been said,
> > the WEF and its networks are free to participate in any part of the IGF's
> > work (intersessional activities, organising workshops, etc.). Thus, I
> don't
> > see why there needs to be any kind of formal arrangement – and this isn't
> > with regards to Davos, by the way. I'm thinking here about the reports
> and
> > such the WEF publishes. In general, I usually welcome calls for closer
> ties
> > and collaboration; however, I think that if the WEF wants to collaborate
> > more closely with the IGF, they should see how their expertise, contacts,
> > and donor networks can better support the IGF's existing mechanisms and
> > infrastructure. Even looking at the recommendations, I don't see any that
> > are not just as applicable to any other stakeholders already
> participating
> > in the IGF, so why make any special exception?
> >
> > Perhaps I'm naive, though.
> >
> > Best,
> > -Michael
> >
> >
> >
> > On Thu, Feb 7, 2019 at 3:14 PM Arsène Tungali <
> governance at lists.riseup.net>
> > wrote:
> >
> >> Hi all,
> >>
> >> Meant to share this document here to have your thoughts about the
> >> collaboration between the IGF and WEF that MAG Chair is pushing for.
> >>
> >> I would like to hear your thoughts on the questions mentionned at the
> >> last page of the document.
> >>
> >> Regards,
> >> Arsene
> >>
> >> ---------- Forwarded message ----------
> >> From: "Lynn St.Amour" <Lynn at internet-matters.org>
> >> Date: Sun, 27 Jan 2019 15:32:46 -0500
> >> Subject: [IGFmaglist] IGF - World Economic Forum (WEF) Collaboration
> >> Discussion Document
> >> To: IGF Maglist <Igfmaglist at intgovforum.org>
> >> Cc: Derek O'Halloran <Derek.OHalloran at weforum.org>
> >>
> >> Dear MAG members,
> >>
> >> please find below a document in support of a discussion on possible
> >> ways to increase collaboration between the IGF community and the World
> >> Economic Forum (WEF).  It builds on past collaborative efforts and is
> >> in support of Agenda item 4 in the IGF Open Consultation meeting:
> >> "Updates from related Internet Governance initiatives and processes,
> >> followed by open discussion on possible IGF 2019
> >> activities/collaboration”.
> >>
> >> Thank you to Derek O’Halloran and the WEF staff for their help
> >> creating this document.
> >>
> >> Best regards,
> >>
> >> Lynn
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
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