[governance] Proposed statement on .ORG sale

[parminder]

Thanks Imran, very useful..

So a community asset given to ISOC for free, nay with a $ 5 million
subsidy, for safe keeping and management on behalf of the community is
suddenly declared by ISOC to just be a sterile financial asset -- with
no community implications whatsoever -- that it is selling off to a
newly formed for profit entity in order to maintain and augment its
funding. And we are supposed to stay quiet or just applaud ISOC's
financial astuteness....

It cannot get more absurd that this..

parminder

On 09/12/19 12:19 PM, Imran Ahmed Shah wrote:
> Hi Parminder,
> There were 11 bidders. ICANN evaluated 11 proposals when VeriSign was
> leaving in 2002.
> At that time, the bidding criteria was different, the bidders were
> quoting their quality of services, as there was objections on VeriSign
> Support. Secondly, bidders were offering the cost of their fee for
> services per domain (registration and/or renewal). ISOC was not the
> lowest bidder.
>
> No, ISOC/PIR did not have to pay anything. In compensation from ICANN,
> VeriSign given seed money (Endowment) to ISOC/PIR for capacity
> building and Registry handling and support 2.6 million domain names.
>
> Regards
>
> Imran Ahmed Shah
>
> On Monday, 9 December 2019, 09:44:57 GMT+5, parminder
> <parminder at itforchange.net> wrote:
>
>
> From those who know I request response to this question:
>
> Was ISOC given the .org registry as a result of an auction (apart from
> other evaluation criteria) or not, meaning did ISOC pay anything, and
> if so how much?
>
> Thanks
>
> parminder
>
> On 09/12/19 3:27 AM, Ayden Férdeline wrote:
> Indeed John, this criteria is interesting, particularly number 6,
> which I have pasted below. I do not believe Ethos Capital has a "level
> of support for the proposal from .ORG registrants," but the Internet
> Society did, and that is why .ORG was assigned to them over other bidders.
>
> */6. Level of support for the proposal from .org registrants./*/
> /
>
> /Demonstrated support among registrants in the .org TLD, particularly
> those actually using .org domain names for noncommercial purposes,
> will be a factor in evaluation of the proposals. Noncommercial
> registrants do not have uniform views about policy and management, and
> no single organization can fully encompass the diversity of global
> civil society. There will likely be significant difficulties in
> ascertaining the level of support for particular .org proposals from
> throughout the .org registrants and noncommercial community.
> Nevertheless, proposals to operate the .org TLD should provide
> available evidence of support from across the global Internet community.//
> /
>
>
> Best wishes,
>
> Ayden Férdeline 
>
>
> ‐‐‐‐‐‐‐ Original Message ‐‐‐‐‐‐‐
> On Sunday, December 8, 2019 10:49 PM, Sylvain Baya
> <governance at lists.riseup.net> <mailto:governance at lists.riseup.net> wrote:
>
>> Hi all,
>>
>> Le dim. 8 déc. 2019 9:19 PM, John Levine <icggov at johnlevine.com
>> <mailto:icggov at johnlevine.com>> a écrit :
>>
>>     In article
>>     <CAJjTEvFXJ+ZLsdLwYF2vMkChKizoZ9RKN7p+O_Bj52yiAn858g at mail.gmail.com
>>     <mailto:CAJjTEvFXJ%2BZLsdLwYF2vMkChKizoZ9RKN7p%2BO_Bj52yiAn858g at mail.gmail.com>>
>>     you write:
>>
>>     ><hxxps://www.icann.org/news/icann-pr-2001-03-01-en
>>     <http://www.icann.org/news/icann-pr-2001-03-01-en>>
>>
>>     It might be more useful to refer to the criteria used to evaluate
>>     the .org proposals and decide who got the registry:
>>
>>
>> Dear John,
>> ...have you used it yourselves ?
>>
>>     https://archive.icann.org/en/tlds/org/criteria.htm
>>
>>
>> ...for sure, these criteria are interesting ; but let me know if
>> there is a specific criterion which contains, explicitely, the key
>> words : */*_By_* and _*For*_/* ?
>>
>> Thanks.
>>
>> Shalom,
>> --sb.
>>
>>
>>     R's,
>>     John
>>
>
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