[governance] PIR Case/or the .org sell

Sun Dec 1 11:44:01 EST 2019

Dear Ayden, all,

Thanks for your responses! It seems to me that if we're going to agree on
anything, it's the lack of transparency that we can agree needs to be
rectified. I've slightly reworded the below in light of the recent
suggestions and remarks.

What do others think about Sylvain's suggestions of asking about setting up
a commons PIR (is this possible/feasible?) and of sending this also to
ISOC's BoT and CEO? Do you have any others?

*As members of a network which encompasses many non-commercial
organisations, we are concerned about the lack of transparency regarding
the sale of .ORG. When the board discusses the sale of .org, we request
that these questions are considered in the due diligence process:   *

*- What does the Board intend to do in order to protect the existing
millions of .ORG registrants?- After the changes to the .ORG contract to
preserve existing rights of .ORG registrants, how else does the Board
intend to ensure the sale of PIR (this new steward of .org) will act on
behalf of the public interest and the world community of noncommercial,
civil society groups in the world?- What are ICANN's obligation to protect
those organizations engaged in missions of "public interest around the
world?" - How does the Board respond to allegations/concerns regarding
possible conflict of interest in transference of stewardship to Ethos
capital?*

*We request answers to these questions in the spirit of building trust
among NGOs and the non-commercial constituency more generally and those who
play a key role in stewarding the Internet.*

On Sat, 30 Nov 2019 at 17:58, Ayden Férdeline <ayden at ferdeline.com> wrote:

> While I agree these are questions for the ISOC Board of Trustees, I
> believe they are *also* questions for the ICANN Board. I expect that the
> ICANN Board will not respond to them, but I think they could - and should -
> and I encourage us to place pressure on both parties to take these
> questions and the sentiments behind them seriously.
>
> ICANN, in particular, does need to address at least the perception that
> there is a revolving door of insiders who are behind this and other deals.
> And ISOC needs to be more transparent about what due diligence it did
> before entering into the arrangement to sell PIR, and what mechanisms it
> has put in place (if any) to protect .ORG, .NGO, and .ONG registrants.
> Thanks.
>
> Best wishes, Ayden Férdeline
>
>
>
> ‐‐‐‐‐‐‐ Original Message ‐‐‐‐‐‐‐
> On Saturday, 30 November 2019 13:34, James Gannon <james at cyberinvasion.net>
> wrote:
>
> These are questions for the ISOC Board not the ICANN board.
>
>
> Sent from my iPhone
>
> On 30 Nov 2019, at 13:09, Sheetal Kumar <sheetal at gp-digital.org> wrote:
>
> 
> Dear all,
>
> What do people think about sending a letter to the ICANN Board with a
> series of questions in order to get more transparency? Bruna and I
> discussed this, and chatted to others, and are wondering what you think of
> this approach. As the Board will meet and discuss the sale as part of a due
> diligence process, we thought it might be a constructive approach to
> request they consider and answer certain questions.
>
> It would be great to hear your views on this approach and on the
> questions. See below:
>
> *When the board discusses the sale of .org, we request that these
> questions are considered in the due diligence process:   *
>
>
>
>
> *- What does the Board intend to do in order to protect the existing
> millions of .ORG registrants? - After the changes to the .ORG contract to
> preserve existing rights of .ORG registrants, how else does the Board
> intend to ensure the sale of PIR (this new steward of .org) will act on
> behalf of the public interest and the world community of noncommercial,
> civil society groups in the world? - What's ICANN's obligation to protect
> those organizations engaged in missions of "public interest around the
> world?" - How does the Board respond to allegations/concerns regarding
> possible conflict of interest in transference of stewardship to Ethos
> capital*
>
> Best
> Sheetal
>
> On Fri, 29 Nov 2019 at 02:36, Sylvain Baya <governance at lists.riseup.net>
> wrote:
>
>> Hi all,
>>
>> Le jeudi 28 novembre 2019, Bill Woodcock <woody at pch.net> a écrit :
>>
>> > they can (even without sourcing their affirmation) then note that the
>>> > minority of *non-commercial* [1] Internet Community is about to be
>>> *eliminated* by their
>>> > 'well intended' *big deal*.
>>> >
>>> > Why ?
>>> > ...i guess that 1% of 10M (domain names) +=> the non-commercial [1]
>>> world is under
>>> > the pressure of commercial world in the Internet, even in .ORG
>>> registrations they are
>>> > still oppressed by 99% of 10M
>>>
>>> None of the above parses.  Please try again, with simpler construction.
>>> You can break it out into as many sentences as you like, but please try to
>>> make each one encapsulate exactly one thought.  Else nobody is going to be
>>> able to engage in a constructive conversation with you.
>>>
>>
>> ...what's the point please, dear Bill ?
>> Do you really want to convince me without argumenting ?
>>
>> Shalom,
>> --sb.
>>
>>
>>>
>>>                                 -Bill
>>>
>>>
>>
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