<div dir="ltr"><div>Dear Ayden, all, <br></div><div><br></div><div>Thanks for your responses! It seems to me that if we're going to agree on anything, it's the lack of transparency that we can agree needs to be rectified. I've slightly reworded the below in light of the recent suggestions and remarks.<br></div><div><br></div><div>What do others think about Sylvain's suggestions of asking about setting up a commons PIR (is this possible/feasible?) and of sending this also to ISOC's BoT and CEO? Do you have any others? <br></div><div><br></div><div>
<span><div><i>As members of a network which encompasses many non-commercial organisations, we are concerned about the lack of transparency regarding the sale of .ORG. When the board discusses the sale of .org, we request that these questions are considered in the due diligence process: <br></i></div><div><i><br></i></div></span><div><i>- What does the Board intend to do in order to protect the existing millions of .ORG registrants?<br>-
After the changes to the .ORG contract to preserve existing rights of
.ORG registrants, how else does the Board intend to ensure the sale of PIR (this
new steward of .org) will act on behalf of the public interest and the
world community of noncommercial, civil society groups in the world?<br>- What are ICANN's obligation to protect those organizations engaged in missions of "public interest around the world?" <br><span>-
How does the Board respond to allegations/concerns regarding possible conflict
of interest in transference of stewardship to Ethos capital?</span></i></div><div><i><span><br></span></i></div><div><i><span>We request answers to these questions in the spirit of building trust among NGOs and the non-commercial constituency more generally and those who play a key role in stewarding the Internet.<br></span></i></div><div><span><br></span></div>
</div><div><br></div><div><br></div></div><br><div class="gmail_quote"><div dir="ltr" class="gmail_attr">On Sat, 30 Nov 2019 at 17:58, Ayden Férdeline <<a href="mailto:ayden@ferdeline.com">ayden@ferdeline.com</a>> wrote:<br></div><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex"><div>While I agree these are questions for the ISOC Board of Trustees, I believe they are *also* questions for the ICANN Board. I expect that the ICANN Board will not respond to them, but I think they could - and should - and I encourage us to place pressure on both parties to take these questions and the sentiments behind them seriously.<br></div><div><br></div><div>ICANN, in particular, does need to address at least the perception that there is a revolving door of insiders who are behind this and other deals. And ISOC needs to be more transparent about what due diligence it did before entering into the arrangement to sell PIR, and what mechanisms it has put in place (if any) to protect .ORG, .NGO, and .ONG registrants. Thanks.<br></div><div><br></div><div>Best wishes, Ayden Férdeline<br></div><div> <br></div><div><div><br></div></div><div><br></div><div>‐‐‐‐‐‐‐ Original Message ‐‐‐‐‐‐‐<br></div><div> On Saturday, 30 November 2019 13:34, James Gannon <<a href="mailto:james@cyberinvasion.net" target="_blank">james@cyberinvasion.net</a>> wrote:<br></div><div> <br></div><blockquote type="cite"><div>These are questions for the ISOC Board not the ICANN board.<br></div><div> <br></div><div> <br></div><div dir="ltr">Sent from my iPhone<br></div><div dir="ltr"><div><br></div><blockquote type="cite"><div>On 30 Nov 2019, at 13:09, Sheetal Kumar <<a href="mailto:sheetal@gp-digital.org" target="_blank">sheetal@gp-digital.org</a>> wrote:<br></div><div> <br></div></blockquote></div><blockquote type="cite"><div dir="ltr"><div> <br></div><div dir="ltr"><div>Dear all, <br></div><div><br></div><div>What do people think about sending a letter to the ICANN Board with a series of questions in order to get more transparency? Bruna and I discussed this, and chatted to others, and are wondering what you think of this approach. As the Board will meet and
discuss the sale as part of a due diligence process, we thought it might be a constructive approach to request they consider and answer certain questions. <br></div><div><br></div><div>It would be great to hear your views on this approach and on the questions. See below: <br></div><div><br></div><div><span><div><i>When the board discusses the sale of .org, we request that these questions are considered in the due diligence process: </i><br></div><div><i></i><br></div></span><div><i>- What does the Board intend to do in order to protect the existing millions of .ORG registrants?<br> - After the changes to the .ORG contract to preserve existing rights of .ORG registrants, how else does the Board intend to ensure the sale of PIR (this new steward of .org) will act on behalf of the public interest and the world community of noncommercial,
civil society groups in the world?<br> - What's ICANN's obligation to protect those organizations engaged in missions of "public interest around the world?" <br> <span>- How does the Board respond to allegations/concerns regarding possible conflict of interest in transference of stewardship to Ethos capital</span></i></div><div><span></span><br></div><div><span>Best</span><br></div><div><span>Sheetal</span><i><span></span></i><br></div></div></div><div><br></div><div class="gmail_quote"><div dir="ltr">On Fri, 29 Nov 2019 at 02:36, Sylvain Baya <<a href="mailto:governance@lists.riseup.net" target="_blank">governance@lists.riseup.net</a>> wrote:<br></div><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex"><div>Hi all,<br></div><div> <br></div><div> Le jeudi 28 novembre 2019, Bill Woodcock <<a href="mailto:woody@pch.net" target="_blank">woody@pch.net</a>> a écrit :<br></div><div> <br></div><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex"><div>> they can (even without sourcing their affirmation) then note that the<br></div><div> > minority of *non-commercial* [1] Internet Community is about to be *eliminated* by their<br></div><div> > 'well intended' *big deal*.<br></div><div> > <br></div><div> > Why ?<br></div><div> > ...i guess that 1% of 10M (domain names) +=> the non-commercial [1] world is under<br></div><div> > the pressure of commercial world in the Internet, even in .ORG registrations they are<br></div><div> > still oppressed by 99% of 10M<br></div><div> <br></div><div> None of the above parses. Please try again, with simpler construction. You can break it out into as many sentences as you like, but please try to make each one encapsulate exactly one thought. Else nobody is going to be able to engage in a constructive conversation
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