[governance] [bestbits] Follow-on from survey on the future of Bestbits: next steps

Mon Apr 8 08:39:46 EDT 2019

 Dear all

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April 10 at 1 PM UTC*. I've included the agenda further below too.

Looking forward to speaking to you then!

Best
Sheetal.

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improving coordination are welcome so please share with anyone relevant.

Suggested agenda
1) Grounding: why are we having this discussion/a recap of what's happened
so far
1) Responses to the survey: a discussion
2) Suggestion of concrete ways forward
3) Meeting at RightsCon?

On Sat, 6 Apr 2019 at 08:55, sivasubramanian muthusamy <6.internet at gmail.com>
wrote:

>
> Dear Akinremi,
>
> I was wondering if the discussion so far has reached the participants of
> the Governance list, especially the thinking that "discussion about
> merging should be limited to each group".  If riseup.net is working, then
> I do not have concerns.
>
> Thank you.
>
> Sivasubramanian M <https://www.facebook.com/sivasubramanian.muthusamy>
> twitter.com/shivaindia
>
>
> On Fri, Apr 5, 2019 at 1:05 PM Akinremi Peter Taiwo <compsoftnet at gmail.com>
> wrote:
>
>> Hi Sivasubramanian,
>>
>> I don't understand what you mean by saying igcaucus.org mailbox is not
>> receiving messages. IGC is currently hosted on riseup.net mailing-list.
>> Please can you help me understand what you are trying to do so as to be
>> able to help.
>>
>> Regards.
>> Peter
>>
>> On Fri, Apr 5, 2019 at 4:12 AM sivasubramanian muthusamy <
>> 6.internet at gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>>>
>>> I wasn't aware that it was formally decided by the Bestbits list to
>>> discuss this list-wise. Posting a note here on a different problem. The
>>> igcaucus. org mailbox is NOT receiving messages, who is managing the
>>> Governance lists please?
>>>
>>> Sivasubramanian M <https://www.facebook.com/sivasubramanian.muthusamy>
>>> twitter.com/shivaindia
>>>
>>>
>>> On Thu, Apr 4, 2019 at 8:03 PM Akinremi Peter Taiwo <
>>> compsoftnet at gmail.com> wrote:
>>>
>>>> Hi Sivasubramanian,
>>>>
>>>> I think what was agreed was that the survey should be limited to
>>>> Bestbit only and that the discussion about merging should be limited to
>>>> each group. This would enable each group to do a kind of an independent
>>>> assessment that would inform the decision of whether the group should cease
>>>> or merge. Also, I could remember that some folks on the IGC group wants IGC
>>>> to remain as it is.
>>>>
>>>> @Deirdre Williams I remembered I openly shared some contacts on the IGC
>>>> list back then, which might be the privacy issue you are referring to.
>>>> Aside of that, I don't think I was in the picture of any privacy issue that
>>>> affected the group. Maybe Jeremy could throw more light on this.
>>>>
>>>> I could also remembered during the review of CSCG, part of our
>>>> discussion was to accommodate regional civil society organization in the
>>>> sphere of IG but the challenge of the individual wearing many hat remains.
>>>>
>>>> Regards.
>>>> Peter
>>>>
>>>> On Sun, Mar 31, 2019 at 9:41 PM Sivasubramanian M <
>>>> governance at lists.riseup.net> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> With apologies for cross-posting, I see a limited response, only about
>>>>> 8 respondents.
>>>>>
>>>>> Is there a corresponding message on the IGC list?  Possibly the poll
>>>>> announcement hasn't reached those who are subscribed only to the IGC list.
>>>>> (or because the title of the message says "future of Bestbits" rather than
>>>>> say "future of IG Civil Society".
>>>>>
>>>>> Sivasubramanian M
>>>>>
>>>>> On Thu, Mar 21, 2019 at 11:41 PM Sheetal Kumar <sheetal at gp-digital.org>
>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> Dear all,
>>>>>>
>>>>>> It's been really great to see the level of engagement in these
>>>>>> conversations about strengthening civil society coordination, and I know
>>>>>> there's a lot of interest in not losing motivation. The conversations have
>>>>>> been premised on a general interest in changing the current situation
>>>>>> (namely Bestbits being inactive as a coordination network), and
>>>>>> collectively finding ways to strengthen global civil society coordination
>>>>>> on the issues we work on.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Hopefully the conversations so far, and the survey which gathered a
>>>>>> broader array of views, have been helpful. I attached a summary report of
>>>>>> the survey in my last email. At the last IGF in Paris there was discussion
>>>>>> of holding a meeting at RightsCon this year. Before we do that however, it
>>>>>> would be good to discuss the responses to the survey and agree a way
>>>>>> forward.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> I'm including a doodle below, with a suggested agenda. It would be
>>>>>> great if you could fill it out by 29 March so I can confirm the date and
>>>>>> set up a room.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> https://doodle.com/poll/vyfn2zdxzt8wqzis
>>>>>>
>>>>>> *Suggested agenda*
>>>>>> 1) Responses to the survey: a discussion
>>>>>> 2) Suggestion of concrete ways forward
>>>>>> 3) Meeting at RightsCon?
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Looking forward to building on your energy and contributions so far!
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Best
>>>>>> Sheetal.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> On Thu, 14 Mar 2019 at 13:43, Sheetal Kumar <sheetal at gp-digital.org>
>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Dear all,
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Thank you very much to those who completed the survey. I have
>>>>>>> attached the anonymised results as a text document, with a summary included
>>>>>>> at the top in case useful.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> As a next step I would suggest a split call, with the first half
>>>>>>> spent discussing the results and suggesting a way forward (45 minutes-1
>>>>>>> hour) and the second half, if deemed necessary, with IGC founders and other
>>>>>>> key members of IGC. We could arrange that as a separate call too.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> The aim of the calls so far and the survey have been to find a way
>>>>>>> to promote *more* civil society coordination, and thus to change
>>>>>>> the current state of affairs. I hope that they help in finding a way
>>>>>>> forward which does this and in so doing, responds to the widest possible
>>>>>>> range of opinion. Should you have any other suggestions on how to proceed,
>>>>>>> please do chime in! Otherwise, I'll send around a doodle for a follow up
>>>>>>> call.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Thanks again.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Best
>>>>>>> Sheetal.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> On Wed, 6 Mar 2019 at 15:02, Sheetal Kumar <sheetal at gp-digital.org>
>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Dear all,
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> We've received a useful number of responses but it would be great
>>>>>>>> to hear from more people about the future of Bestbits. If you could fill
>>>>>>>> out the survey by COB this Friday that would be much appreciated.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> http://bestbits.net/
>>>>>>>> <http://bestbits.net/limesurvey/index.php?r=survey/index&sid=528319>
>>>>>>>> limesurvey/index.php?r=survey/
>>>>>>>> <http://bestbits.net/limesurvey/index.php?r=survey/index&sid=528319>
>>>>>>>> index&sid=528319
>>>>>>>> <http://bestbits.net/limesurvey/index.php?r=survey/index&sid=528319>
>>>>>>>> I'll then likely send out a doodle for another call to decide next
>>>>>>>> steps next week.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Thank you!
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Best
>>>>>>>> Sheetal.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> On Thu, 28 Feb 2019 at 11:58, Sheetal Kumar <sheetal at gp-digital.org>
>>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Dear all,
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> We've got some great responses to the survey so thank you to those
>>>>>>>>> who have responded already.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> The survey is still open so please do lend your views if you can,
>>>>>>>>> by using the link below. The survey responses will feed into the next set
>>>>>>>>> of discussions on the future of Bestbits.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> http://bestbits.net/
>>>>>>>>> <http://bestbits.net/limesurvey/index.php?r=survey/index&sid=528319>
>>>>>>>>> limesurvey/index.php?r=survey/
>>>>>>>>> <http://bestbits.net/limesurvey/index.php?r=survey/index&sid=528319>
>>>>>>>>> index&sid=528319
>>>>>>>>> <http://bestbits.net/limesurvey/index.php?r=survey/index&sid=528319>
>>>>>>>>> Best
>>>>>>>>> Sheetal.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> On Thu, 21 Feb 2019 at 09:37, Sheetal Kumar <
>>>>>>>>> sheetal at gp-digital.org> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Dear all,
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Following a call and discussion on this thread, please see a
>>>>>>>>>> survey below to gather your views on the future of Bestbits. Following a
>>>>>>>>>> call on February 11 with members of Bestbits, as well as members of IGC, it
>>>>>>>>>> was agreed that a survey would be circulated to gather views of all members.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> The survey is preceded by a background information note which
>>>>>>>>>> includes a summary of the discussions so far, and links to the summaries of
>>>>>>>>>> calls.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> http://bestbits.net/limesurvey/index.php?r=survey/index&sid=528319&lang=en
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> As a member of the Bestbits mailing list, you are invited to
>>>>>>>>>> complete the survey. To inform future discussions in a timely way, please
>>>>>>>>>> complete the survey *by 08 March*. Should you have any questions
>>>>>>>>>> at all, don't hesitate to get in touch.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Looking forward to hearing your views!
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Best
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Sheetal.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> On Tue, 12 Feb 2019 at 20:08, Sheetal Kumar <
>>>>>>>>>> sheetal at gp-digital.org> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> Dear all,
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> Thank you to those who participated in the call yesterday. For
>>>>>>>>>>> those who couldn't attend the call, you'll find the list of participants
>>>>>>>>>>> and notes here:
>>>>>>>>>>> https://etherpad.wikimedia.org/p/Bestbitscallfuture
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> We had a rich discussion about the possible ways forward for
>>>>>>>>>>> Bestbits, building on the previous conversation in December and the
>>>>>>>>>>> discussion on this thread since.
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> In essence, there was general agreement that both Bestbits and
>>>>>>>>>>> IGC have been facing challenges in fulfilling their objectives,
>>>>>>>>>>> particularly when it comes to coordination and we agreed to circulate a
>>>>>>>>>>> survey to both lists to gather perspectives on four suggested ways forward
>>>>>>>>>>> which were discussed on the call. It was suggested that this survey with
>>>>>>>>>>> the broader communities feed into a decision on the future of the
>>>>>>>>>>> platforms. The survey will be circulated shortly to both lists shortly,
>>>>>>>>>>> and your participation would be greatly appreciated.
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> Best
>>>>>>>>>>> Sheetal.
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> On Thu, 7 Feb 2019 at 16:47, Sheetal Kumar <
>>>>>>>>>>> sheetal at gp-digital.org> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> Dear all,
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> This is just a gentle reminder that the call on next steps is
>>>>>>>>>>>> this coming Monday, 11 February from* 4- 6 PM UTC*. The full
>>>>>>>>>>>> details are included in my previous email and I've updated the
>>>>>>>>>>>> etherpad <https://etherpad.wikimedia.org/p/Bestbitscallfuture>
>>>>>>>>>>>> with those planning to attend.
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> Looking forward to speaking to you then!
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> Best
>>>>>>>>>>>> Sheetal.
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> On Wed, 30 Jan 2019 at 10:07, Sheetal Kumar <
>>>>>>>>>>>> sheetal at gp-digital.org> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> Dear all,
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> Thank you for filling out the doodle! It seems the best time
>>>>>>>>>>>>> for the call is* 4-6 PM UTC on February 11*. The full details
>>>>>>>>>>>>> of the call, including how to join, are below.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> Thanks to Farzaneh for setting up the room. Looking forward to
>>>>>>>>>>>>> speaking to as many of you as possible on the 11th!
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> Best
>>>>>>>>>>>>> Sheetal.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> *Bestbits call: Future pathways *
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> *Date and time: *
>>>>>>>>>>>>> 11 February, 4:00-6:00 PM UTC <http://worldtimebuddy.com/>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
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>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> *Proposed agenda: *
>>>>>>>>>>>>> *Aim: *to discuss the future of the Bestbits and IGC lists,
>>>>>>>>>>>>> including the possibility of a merger + other options
>>>>>>>>>>>>> 1) Identification/agreement of challenges and issues faced in
>>>>>>>>>>>>> each network
>>>>>>>>>>>>> 2) Discussion of options, e.g merger of lists/establishment of
>>>>>>>>>>>>> new/maintenance of status quo - using lists as information sharing devices:
>>>>>>>>>>>>> pros and cons of each
>>>>>>>>>>>>> 3) Discussion of next steps/agreement on process for decision
>>>>>>>>>>>>> making regarding future of the lists
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> *RSVP on etherpad*
>>>>>>>>>>>>> I've put the agenda in this pad
>>>>>>>>>>>>> <https://etherpad.wikimedia.org/p/Bestbitscallfuture>and I've
>>>>>>>>>>>>> also added the names of those who indicated they were available for the
>>>>>>>>>>>>> call at this time. Of course, as a Bestbits member you can join the call
>>>>>>>>>>>>> without indicating that in the pad, this is just to have a vague idea of
>>>>>>>>>>>>> numbers.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Fri, 18 Jan 2019 at 14:13, Sheetal Kumar <
>>>>>>>>>>>>> sheetal at gp-digital.org> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Dear all
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> It's been great to see the engagement on this topic, and
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> thanks to those who have shared their perspectives and the relevant
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> documents too.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> In December when we had the call we agreed to touch base
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> again in the middle of January to agree a way forward. The discussions here
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> provide rich ground for the discussion, and Farzaneh has kindly offered to
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> set up a conference call space for us.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I am circulating below a doodle for our second call to decide
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> next steps. This is a suggested agenda:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 1) Identification/agreement of challenges and issues faced in
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> each network
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 2) Discussion of options, e.g merger of lists/establishment
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> of new/maintenance of status quo, e.g using lists as information sharing
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> devices: pros and cons of each approach
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 3) Discussion of next steps/agreement on process for decision
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> making regarding future of Bestbits
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Having spoken to those who arranged the last call, we suggest
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> only Bestbits members are invited but that we also reach out to some IGC
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> folks to help provide some background and inform the discussion only.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> https://doodle.com/poll/yzmbvibwp6n4s976
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> If everyone could fill out the doodle by the end of next week
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> (Friday, 25 Jan) we can set a time and send the conference room link too.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Best
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Sheetal.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Fri, 11 Jan 2019 at 13:10, Deirdre Williams <
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> williams.deirdre at gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Please excuse the cross-posting.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I've been following this discussion with care, and have a
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> couple of questions which seem to fall in line with what Nnenna and Jeremy
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> are saying.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 1. If we had more or less stopped sharing
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> information/discussing things/ working together within IGC and Bestbits
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> separately, would merging the two groups again really improve participation?
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 2. Is there a way for us to look at what needs to be done,
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> what we want to do, how we want to do it?
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 3. Who are "we"? Are we the same as the people who started
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> IGC and Bestbits - same objectives, same perceptions and perspectives, same
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> priorities?
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Without answers to these questions it seems unlikely that we
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> would make much progress.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Purely as an illustration please consider IRPC (which many
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> of us also belong to) which is currently having some difficulty with
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> identifying volunteers to carry out management tasks for the group.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Civil society still needs a means to discuss issues and find
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> a common voice, but is this the right way to do that now or do we need to
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> devise something different?
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Best wishes for 2019
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Deirdre
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Thu, 10 Jan 2019 at 14:09, Jeremy Malcolm <
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> jeremy at malcolm.id.au> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On 1/10/19 2:01 AM, Sheetal Kumar wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > For those who were part of the first Steering Committee
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> of Bestbits -
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > could you share more information about how it was
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> constituted and why?
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> It was because IGC discourse had become toxic and
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> dysfunctional, and
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> people were dropping out. It had been a while since it had
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> been able to
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> agree on a joint statement. At the same time, the 2012 ITU
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> WCIT was
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> coming up, and being able to collaborate on joint action
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> was important,
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> so a few conversations between people both inside and
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> outside of IGC
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> resulted in them becoming the first volunteer steering
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> committee.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> But then the same civil society politics that had driven
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> the IGC into
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> the ground started to disrupt Best Bits too. There were
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> (misplaced but
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> damaging) allegations about various participants having
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> hidden agendas
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> or not being transparent enough about their own funding. So
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> whereas the
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> original committee had been fairly lightweight and
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> informal, pressure to
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> adopt more formal mechanisms of accountability resulted in
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> us investing
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> a lot of time in creating a more elaborate set of rules and
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> processes.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> As it turned out, this was too heavy and people weren't
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> motivated to
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> engage in these new processes, indicating that the more
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> lightweight
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> structure had probably been better.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> If there was a group of willing people who could
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> resuscitate Best Bits,
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> even without formal elections, I'd be all for that. But I
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> don't think
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> there is. I personally have given as much time to it as I'd
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> like to
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> give, because I'm focusing my energy on my new nonprofit
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Prostasia
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Foundation now.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> --
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Jeremy Malcolm PhD LLB (Hons) B Com
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Internet lawyer, ICT policy advocate, geek
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> echo "9EEAi^^;6C6]>J^=^>6"|tr '\!-~' 'P-~\!-O'|wget -q -i -
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> -O -
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
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>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> --
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>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> knowledge" Sir William Arthur Lewis, Nobel Prize Economics, 1979
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> --
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> *Sheetal Kumar*
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Programme Lead | GLOBAL PARTNERS DIGITAL
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>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> --
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> *Sheetal Kumar*
>>>>>>>>>>>>> Programme Lead | GLOBAL PARTNERS DIGITAL
>>>>>>>>>>>>> Second Home, 68-80 Hanbury Street, London, E1 5JL
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>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> --
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> *Sheetal Kumar*
>>>>>>>>>>>> Programme Lead | GLOBAL PARTNERS DIGITAL
>>>>>>>>>>>> Second Home, 68-80 Hanbury Street, London, E1 5JL
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>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> --
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> *Sheetal Kumar*
>>>>>>>>>>> Programme Lead | GLOBAL PARTNERS DIGITAL
>>>>>>>>>>> Second Home, 68-80 Hanbury Street, London, E1 5JL
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>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> --
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> *Sheetal Kumar*
>>>>>>>>>> Programme Lead | GLOBAL PARTNERS DIGITAL
>>>>>>>>>> Second Home, 68-80 Hanbury Street, London, E1 5JL
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>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> --
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> *Sheetal Kumar*
>>>>>>>>> Programme Lead | GLOBAL PARTNERS DIGITAL
>>>>>>>>> Second Home, 68-80 Hanbury Street, London, E1 5JL
>>>>>>>>> T: +44 (0)20 3 818 3258| M: +44 (0)7739569514  |
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>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> --
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> *Sheetal Kumar*
>>>>>>>> Programme Lead | GLOBAL PARTNERS DIGITAL
>>>>>>>> Second Home, 68-80 Hanbury Street, London, E1 5JL
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>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> --
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> *Sheetal Kumar*
>>>>>>> Programme Lead | GLOBAL PARTNERS DIGITAL
>>>>>>> Second Home, 68-80 Hanbury Street, London, E1 5JL
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>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> --
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> *Sheetal Kumar*
>>>>>> Programme Lead | GLOBAL PARTNERS DIGITAL
>>>>>> Second Home, 68-80 Hanbury Street, London, E1 5JL
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