[governance] [bestbits] UN Working Group considering mechanisms for global governance of Internet fails

[Dave Burstein]

Quickly

I didn't mean "a Marc Anthony’s funeral oration vibe" when I said I believe
Parminder, Vint Cerf, and similar are taking their positions "honorably"
because they fear any government involvement. No satire or implications.

I do know the U.S. *government* position is a cold war revival. Larry
Strickling, a lead of the U.S. government at WCIT explained their position
by asking me, "Dave, do you want Russia and China running the Internet." I
do, actually, alongside other nations. China is now 1/3rd of the Internet.
A system that excludes them is unstable.  (See the board of ICANN or ISOC.)

As I predicted, what's happening is the excluded are building their
alternate institutions: BRICs agreements, World Internet Conference, Belt &
Road extending to Europe and Africa, Russia's alternate root.
http://netpolicynews.com/index.php/component/content/article/89-r/941-russia-orders-alternate-internet-system






On Thu, Feb 1, 2018 at 6:37 PM, Suresh Ramasubramanian <suresh at hserus.net>
wrote:

> I’m getting a strong Marc Anthony’s funeral oration vibe here when I read
> your email :)
>
> But how would moving all this mess to the UN make it multistakeholder?
> You’d just see a more government centric model, with most stakeholders kept
> away from policy making.
>
> Maybe some favoured civil society would get in based on how close they are
> to their individual governments but that’s about it.
>
> And as for industry the traditional telecom players would have a
> disproportionate presence compared to most anyone else.
>
> There is a lot to carp and criticise over the existing model, but
> exchanging it for the UN would be that old Aesop fable of the fish getting
> king stork instead of king log.
>
> _____________________________
> From: Dave Burstein <daveb at dslprime.com>
> Sent: Friday, February 2, 2018 2:46 AM
> Subject: Re: [governance] [bestbits] UN Working Group considering
> mechanisms for global governance of Internet fails
> To: parminder <parminder.js at gmail.com>
> Cc: <governance at lists.riseup.net>, BestBitsList <
> bestbits at lists.bestbits.net>, Forum at Justnetcoalition. Org <
> forum at justnetcoalition.org>
>
> (The euphemism is "only high order principles.) I'm sure folks like Vint
> Cerf support "multistakeholder" and "consensus" for honorable fear of
> governments. Knowing Parminder's work, I expect he's in that camp, also for
> honorable reasons.
>
>
>


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