[governance] [bestbits] End of the year civil society meeting/ briefing

Mon Dec 17 09:09:50 EST 2018

Dear all,

Thanks @farzaneh badii <farzaneh.badii at gmail.com> for kickstarting the
discussion and @Arsène Tungali <arsenebaguma at gmail.com> for clarifying the
doubts about the CSCG.

Before we decide on which group is joining CSCG, I believe its important
for us to stick to what was agreed on the call  which was: CSCG
representation discussion would only be done once we decided on the IGC/BB
merger.

I personally believe that the decision of welcoming an specific group to
CSCG is a rather complicated one and would need to be thoroughly discussed
within all the groups represented at CSCG, not only best bits and IGC.

best,
bruna

Em seg, 17 de dez de 2018 às 12:02, Arsène Tungali <
governance at lists.riseup.net> escreveu:

> This will be a discussion to happen at the CSCG level on the necessity
> or the opportunity to bring in new CS groups, which i personally
> welcome as a great idea.
>
> The CSCG ought to be inclusive of all the major civil society groups.
>
> 2018-12-17 15:47 UTC+02:00, Nadira Alaraj <nadira.araj at gmail.com>:
> > Thank you Arsene for your follow up on the CSCG,
> > Yes, the number of CS groups will be reduced to 4 if the merge will
> > happens.
> > However, I  would like to bring to your attention that during my role at
> > the CSCG, Ian Peter was chairing a committee that we worked to introduce
> a
> > procedures for New CSCG member.
> > http://internetgov-cs.org/procedures#C
> >
> > There would be possibility to add a new global CS as the 5th members and
> > that could be IG for Youth.
> > I'm not sure how organized the youth group would be and if it satisfies
> the
> > thoroughly discussed procedure for new member.
> > Best,
> > Nadira
> >
> >
> >
> > On Mon, Dec 17, 2018, 14:50 Arsène Tungali <arsenebaguma at gmail.com
> wrote:
> >
> >> Hi all,
> >>
> >> Thanks Farzaneh for starting this thread and thanks everyone who took
> >> the time to attend the call.
> >>
> >> Thanks also for offering to give a hand of support with some task
> >> within the IGC, we will take this discussion (as well as the one on
> >> merging) to the IGC list soon for a more elaborate discussion.
> >>
> >> And please do share the recording to give everyone an idea of what was
> >> discussed.
> >>
> >> I wanted to offer a quick reaction to Nadira and Michael's comments.
> >>
> >> During the call, we did not discuss much about the CSCG which is a
> >> coordination group where IGC is a member, alongside other members such
> >> as APC, Just Net Coalition, Best Bits and the ICANN's NCSG.
> >>
> >> About the merging question, this one will affect (if it happens), the
> >> number of CSCG members but the CSCG itself cannot be merged with
> >> anything (keeping this within the context). If BB and IGC merge, then
> >> the CSCG will now have 4 members than 5.
> >>
> >> R. Hill who is co chair of the CSCG said that once the merging
> >> question is cleared, then only a discussion within CSCG's structure
> >> and future will happen.
> >>
> >> Bruna and I, as IGC co-cos agreed to start a discussion within the IGC
> >> to explore the possibilities of merging IGC with BB.
> >>
> >> Hope this helps.
> >>
> >> Regards,
> >> Arsene
> >>
> >> 2018-12-17 10:33 UTC+02:00, "Michael J. Oghia" <
> >> governance at lists.riseup.net>:
> >> > He everyone,
> >> >
> >> > Thank you for this summary Farzi. I think Nadira makes a good point
> >> > about
> >> > looking into that. I'm it sure how each of these three organisations
> >> > are
> >> > structured, but perhaps we should consider consolidation of all three
> >> > (if
> >> > possible).
> >> >
> >> > Best,
> >> > -Michael
> >> >
> >> >
> >> > On Sun, Dec 16, 2018, 11:09 PM Nadira Alaraj <nadira.araj at gmail.com
> >> wrote:
> >> >
> >> >> Thank you Farzaneh for your briefing.
> >> >>
> >> >> I would like to comment on the merging consequences that it will
> >> >> affect
> >> >> the structure of the
> >> >> http://internetgov-cs.org or the CSCG. The objective of  "The CSCG
> has
> >> >> co-operated with such bodies as international Telecomunication Union,
> >> >> WSIS+10, UNDESA, Internet Governance Forum, CSTD Working Group on
> >> >> Enhanced
> >> >> Cooperation, Netmundial Conference and Intiative and 1Net Initiative
> >> >> to
> >> >> nominate a diverse range of civil society members as speakers and
> >> members
> >> >> of committees and working groups"
> >> >>
> >> >> I'm not sure if CSCG structure have been discussed or not. It would
> be
> >> >> good to look into as well.
> >> >> Best,
> >> >> Nadira
> >> >>
> >> >> On Sun, Dec 16, 2018, 23:10 farzaneh badii <farzaneh.badii at gmail.com
> >> >> wrote:
> >> >>
> >> >>> Dear all,
> >> >>>
> >> >>> We had a good online meeting with up to 25 civil society members in
> >> >>> attendance on 13 December. I have the recording I can share with
> you.
> >> (I
> >> >>> have asked if sharing the recording was ok with the participants
> >> >>> there
> >> >>> was
> >> >>> no objection, but I give it a couple of more days before I share the
> >> >>> recording)
> >> >>>
> >> >>> There was a brief overview of what was done during last year in
> >> >>> venues
> >> >>> such as RightsCon etc.
> >> >>> The issues that were discussed (as much as I remember):
> >> >>>
> >> >>> We also discussed the merge of IGC and BestBits. It was decided that
> >> the
> >> >>> co-coordinator of BB and IGC discuss and give a couple of weeks
> >> deadline
> >> >>> to
> >> >>> come to a conclusion on whether a merge would be good.
> >> >>>
> >> >>> the suggestion to merge comes from the fact that civil society IG
> >> >>> activities (especially at IGF) became fragmented. We need to pool
> our
> >> >>> resources and I think Jeremy mentioned that the reasons behind the
> >> >>> creation
> >> >>> of BB are not around anymore. I believe we should make a decision on
> >> >>> that
> >> >>> soon hopefully and start pooling our resources into one effort.
> >> >>>
> >> >>> The idea of mapping initiatives and focal points:
> >> >>> To keep things going and be more active in 2019, it would be good to
> >> map
> >> >>> initiatives (Collin Kurre from Article 19 has good ideas about that)
> >> >>>
> >> >>> I also suggested that we have focal points for each event or forum
> if
> >> we
> >> >>> want to for example organize a session or be more coordinated in our
> >> >>> efforts.
> >> >>>
> >> >>> I volunteered to help IGC with coordination for  IGF 2019, and civil
> >> >>> society pre-event. I will also help IGC with drafting something a
> >> public
> >> >>> comment for IGF taking stock call.
> >> >>>
> >> >>>
> >> >>>
> >> >>>
> >> >>> Best
> >> >>>
> >> >>>
> >> >>>
> >> >>>
> >> >>> Farzaneh
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> >> >
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> >> <
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> >> >
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> **Arsène Tungali* <http://about.me/ArseneTungali>*
> Co-Founder & Executive Director, *Rudi international
> <http://www.rudiinternational.org>*,
> CEO,* Smart Services Sarl <https://www.smart-kitoko.com/>*,
> Tel: +243 993810967
> GPG: 523644A0
> *Goma, Democratic Republic of Congo*
>
> 2015 Mandela Washington Felllow
> <
> http://tungali.blogspot.com/2015/06/selected-for-2015-mandela-washington.html
> >
> (YALI) - ISOC Ambassador (IGF Brazil
> <
> http://www.internetsociety.org/what-we-do/education-and-leadership-programmes/next-generation-leaders/igf-ambassadors-programme/Past-Ambassadors
> >
> & Mexico
> <
> http://www.internetsociety.org/what-we-do/education-and-leadership-programmes/next-generation-leaders/Current-Ambassadors
> >)
> - AFRISIG 2016 <http://afrisig.org/afrisig-2016/class-of-2016/> - Blogger
> <http://tungali.blogspot.com> - ICANN's GNSO Council
> <https://gnso.icann.org/en/about/gnso-council.htm> Member. AFRINIC Fellow
> (
> Mauritius
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