[governance] [bestbits] [Ext] Re: [DC] [IGFmaglist] IGF Best Practice Forum on Gender: Access

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Hi Asène,

Tu soulèves là un très bon point. J'ai toujours eu comme l'impression que
la notion du genre est considérée par la majorité qui y défend comme la
problématique de la femme, ce qui constitue une erreur et un déséquilibre
grave. Vivement que nous puissions recentrer cette notion importante pour
la gouvernance de notre société. Vive la diversité.

Cordialement.


Hi Asene,

You raise a very good point here. I have always had the impression that the
notion of gender is considered by the majority who defend it as the
problematic of women, which constitutes a mistake and a serious imbalance.
We strongly hope that we can refocus this important notion for the
governance of our society. Long live for the diversity.

Best Regards,

2017-10-03 15:45 GMT+02:00 Arsène Tungali <arsenebaguma at gmail.com>:

> Hi all,
>
> Thank you very much Deidre for raising that issue with regards to
> "gender". I tend to agree with you on all your points and do believe we
> need to reconsider the way we see/talk about  and define gender.
>
> We might run into the lack of balance if we consider men, leaving women
> behind and vice versa. Though i believe we all fight for diversity.
>
> Regards,
> Arsene
>
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>
> On Oct 3, 2017, at 2:41 PM, Deirdre Williams <williams.deirdre at gmail.com>
> wrote:
>
> Dear Jac,
>
> Dear Jac,
>
> While I support your work on behalf of women and girls I’m noticing a
> trend which is very disturbing – that is the creation of “gender” as being
> synonymous with “women/female”, at times almost acting as a euphemism.
>
> Consider what you wrote yesterday:
>
> the multiple forms of disparity and discrimination that the diversity of
> women face
>
> and what Michael wrote this morning:
>
> To put it mildly, helping to empower women and girls with meaningful and
> sustainable access is imperative to our future
>
> Where are the men?
>
> We seem to be being driven into an unfortunate case of divide and rule. A
> huge theme for the internet is inclusion, and yet “gender” is excluding
> approximately half of its population. So if we want to say “women” couldn’t
> we just say “women”? Do we think it’s a bad word? And if we’re discussing
> gender, couldn’t we include the men too? For example there might be
> workshops considering things from both sides, offering a male perspective
> as well. Are there men who facilitate internet access for women? Are there
> men who actively block access? How is this done and what measures have been
> implemented to get round the blocking? Are there men who are themselves
> denied access to the internet?
>
> The human race is diverse, in gender as well as in many other things.
> Denying diversity has been demonstrated as an unsuccessful way to try to
> solve problems, because the diversity persists no matter how much it is
> denied.
>
> What do other people think?
>
> Best wishes from the Caribbean (where we have a concern about the
> “marginalised male”)
> Deirdre.
>
> On 2 October 2017 at 05:52, Jac sm Kee <jac at apcwomen.org> wrote:
>
>> Much thanks for all the considered thoughts on this issue. Being a
>> committed advocate of this issue, I appreciate the reflection and
>> insights on why it is both difficult and important to integrate gender
>> into IG and policy conversations, including and esp on access.
>>
>> I hope this thread of discussion helped to clarify why it doesn't make
>> sense to stack the multiple forms of disparity and discrimination that
>> the diversity of women face before we take action to address whatever
>> that is within our ability, capacity and responsibility to address. Also
>> happy to take this conversation further if more doubts or questions
>> surface.
>>
>> In the meantime, we continue to appreciate your support in responding to
>> as well as disseminating the survey to your networks who do work in this
>> area.
>>
>> As a reminder, the survey link is:
>> https://www.apc.org/limesurvey/index.php/783797/lang-en
>>
>> Best,
>> jac
>>
>>
>> ---------------------------------
>> Jac sm Kee
>> Manager, Women's Rights Programme
>> Association for Progressive Communications
>> www.apc.org | www.takebackthetech.net | erotics.apc.org
>> Jitsi: jacsmk | Skype: jacsmk | Twitter: @jhybe
>>
>>
>
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