<div dir="ltr"><div>Hi Asène,</div><div><br></div><div>Tu soulèves là un très bon point. J'ai toujours eu comme l'impression que la notion du genre est considérée par la majorité qui y défend comme la problématique de la femme, ce qui constitue une erreur et un déséquilibre grave. Vivement que nous puissions recentrer cette notion importante pour la gouvernance de notre société. Vive la diversité.</div><div><br></div><div>Cordialement.</div><div><br></div><div><br></div><div><div>Hi Asene,</div><div><br></div><div>You raise a very good point here. I have always had the impression that the notion of gender is considered by the majority who defend it as the problematic of women, which constitutes a mistake and a serious imbalance. We strongly hope that we can refocus this important notion for the governance of our society. Long live for the diversity.</div><div><br></div><div>Best Regards,</div></div></div><div class="gmail_extra"><br><div class="gmail_quote">2017-10-03 15:45 GMT+02:00 Arsène Tungali <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:arsenebaguma@gmail.com" target="_blank">arsenebaguma@gmail.com</a>></span>:<br><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex"><div dir="auto"><div>Hi all,</div><div id="m_-7066055294212023173AppleMailSignature"><br></div><div id="m_-7066055294212023173AppleMailSignature">Thank you very much Deidre for raising that issue with regards to "gender". I tend to agree with you on all your points and do believe we need to reconsider the way we see/talk about and define gender. </div><div id="m_-7066055294212023173AppleMailSignature"><br></div><div id="m_-7066055294212023173AppleMailSignature">We might run into the lack of balance if we consider men, leaving women behind and vice versa. Though i believe we all fight for diversity.</div><div id="m_-7066055294212023173AppleMailSignature"><br></div><div id="m_-7066055294212023173AppleMailSignature">Regards,</div><div id="m_-7066055294212023173AppleMailSignature">Arsene<br><br><div>-----------------</div><div>Arsène Tungali,</div><div><a href="http://about.me/ArseneTungali" target="_blank">about.me/ArseneTungali</a></div><div><a href="tel:+243%20993%20810%20967" value="+243993810967" target="_blank">+243 993810967</a></div><div>GPG: 523644A0</div><div>Goma, Democratic Republic of Congo</div><div><br></div>Sent from my iPhone (excuse typos)</div><div><div class="h5"><div><br>On Oct 3, 2017, at 2:41 PM, Deirdre Williams <<a href="mailto:williams.deirdre@gmail.com" target="_blank">williams.deirdre@gmail.com</a>> wrote:<br><br></div><blockquote type="cite"><div><div dir="ltr">Dear Jac,<div><br></div><p class="MsoNormal">Dear Jac,</p>
<p class="MsoNormal">While I support your work on behalf of women and girls I’m
noticing a trend which is very disturbing – that is the creation of “gender” as
being synonymous with “women/female”, at times almost acting as a euphemism.</p>
<p class="MsoNormal">Consider what you wrote yesterday:</p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:7.5pt;line-height:115%;font-family:Arial,sans-serif;background-image:initial;background-position:initial;background-size:initial;background-repeat:initial;background-origin:initial;background-clip:initial">the multiple forms of
disparity and discrimination that</span> the diversity of women face<span></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal">and what Michael wrote this morning:</p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:7.5pt;line-height:115%;font-family:Arial,sans-serif;background-image:initial;background-position:initial;background-size:initial;background-repeat:initial;background-origin:initial;background-clip:initial">To put it mildly, helping
to empower women and girls with meaningful and sustainable access is imperative
to our future</span><span></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal">Where are the men? </p>
<p class="MsoNormal">We seem to be being driven into an unfortunate case of
divide and rule. A huge theme for the internet is inclusion, and yet “gender”
is excluding approximately half of its population. So if we want to say “women”
couldn’t we just say “women”? Do we think it’s a bad word? And if we’re
discussing gender, couldn’t we include the men too? For example there might be
workshops considering things from both sides, offering a male perspective as
well. Are there men who facilitate internet access for women? Are there men who
actively block access? How is this done and what measures have been implemented
to get round the blocking? Are there men who are themselves denied access to
the internet?</p>
<p class="MsoNormal">The human race is diverse, in gender as well as in many
other things. Denying diversity has been demonstrated as an unsuccessful way to
try to solve problems, because the diversity persists no matter how much it is
denied.</p>
<p class="MsoNormal">What do other people think?</p>
<p class="MsoNormal">Best wishes from the Caribbean (where we have a concern
about the “marginalised male”)</p>
<div>Deirdre<span style="font-size:12.8px">.</span><br></div></div><div class="gmail_extra"><br><div class="gmail_quote">On 2 October 2017 at 05:52, Jac sm Kee <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:jac@apcwomen.org" target="_blank">jac@apcwomen.org</a>></span> wrote:<br><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex">Much thanks for all the considered thoughts on this issue. Being a<br>
committed advocate of this issue, I appreciate the reflection and<br>
insights on why it is both difficult and important to integrate gender<br>
into IG and policy conversations, including and esp on access.<br>
<br>
I hope this thread of discussion helped to clarify why it doesn't make<br>
sense to stack the multiple forms of disparity and discrimination that<br>
the diversity of women face before we take action to address whatever<br>
that is within our ability, capacity and responsibility to address. Also<br>
happy to take this conversation further if more doubts or questions<br>
surface.<br>
<br>
In the meantime, we continue to appreciate your support in responding to<br>
as well as disseminating the survey to your networks who do work in this<br>
area.<br>
<br>
As a reminder, the survey link is:<br>
<a href="https://www.apc.org/limesurvey/index.php/783797/lang-en" rel="noreferrer" target="_blank">https://www.apc.org/limesurvey<wbr>/index.php/783797/lang-en</a><br>
<br>
Best,<br>
jac<br>
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