[governance] Accountability group puts Google in same league as big oil and big tobacco

parminder parminder at itforchange.net
Thu Jul 13 10:59:30 EDT 2017

On Thursday 13 July 2017 07:41 PM, Ken Stubbs wrote:
> Speaking personally,
> Frankly, I am getting tired of hearing this irritating mantra that far
> to many successful companies
> are *_inherently_**_evil and uncaring.
> _*

Like Shell, Monsanto, US pharma, and so on -- all very successful
companies!!? And if you have no idea what I am talking about then the
problem is that you do not know what global civil society is about,
although you happily chose to come in and provide overbearing comments
on the elist of a global civil society group.
> *_
> _*I am not necessarily defending Google, I would need significantly
> more evidence of their intent than
> a speculative article written by someone who may very well have their
> own "agenda"
> I have little respect for people who spend much of their energies
> criticizing innovative & creative
> entities who turn their creative efforts into success.

And I, in turn, have absolutely no respect for business people who think
that they can shout down civil society's central watchdog role on elists
that are basically for civil society discussion. That is some real hubris.
> Those who use their energies & efforts criticizing & chastising 
> should spend less time moaning & complaining & more of this time
> working towards effecting
> positive change

Yes, sure, it is the big corporates that are working for positive change
and not public interest groups!! I absolutely understand the attempt of
corporate capture of everything, including civil society and public
interest. Only that you have still to face considerable resistance, it
is not done yet.

> Ken Stubbs
> On 7/13/17 06:26, Suresh Ramasubramanian wrote:
>> What, this didn't get shared here earlier? I'm shocked 
>> Ah, by the way here's googles
>> response https://www.blog.google/topics/public-policy/responding-campaign-accountability-report-academic-research/
>> Also - what do you propose, that academia raise money solely from
>> school fees, or maybe use Monopoly money, to fund their research?  Or
>> maybe just stop doing research?
>> --srs
>> On 13-Jul-2017, at 3:51 PM, parminder <parminder at itforchange.net
>> <mailto:parminder at itforchange.net>> wrote:
>>> Google has spent millions funding academic research in the US
>>> and Europe <https://www.theguardian.com/world/europe-news> to try to
>>> influence public opinion and policymakers, a watchdog has claimed.
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