[governance] Multistakeholderism and Mr. Trump

Samten Yeshi saameyes at gmail.com
Tue Jan 31 05:14:12 EST 2017


Ha ha. Trump seems over excited to occupy that chair. 


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> On Jan 31, 2017, at 4:02 PM, Nyangkwe Agien Aaron <nyangkweagien at gmail.com> wrote:
> 
> Many thanks Wlli for your earlier post. It said it all. It is just like the hollerings about Trump's anti-refugees of certain countries well as Obama signed the sam decree in 2011 and no one made single noise.
> 
> Who is caught pants down here?
> 
> Agien Nyangkwe (Aaron)  
> 
> On Tue, Jan 31, 2017 at 6:04 AM, willi uebelherr <willi.uebelherr at riseup.net <mailto:willi.uebelherr at riseup.net>> wrote:
> 
> Dear Nicolas,
> 
> why you don't speak about the possiblity to move to online conferences?
> 
> greeting, willi
> Asuncion, Paraguay
> 
> 
> On 30/01/2017 10:43, Nicolas Fiumarelli wrote:
> Hello List,
> 
> As most of you know,
> 
> The United States, at the time of the next IETF meeting in Chicago, will
> still have the executive order that prevents anyone from seven designated
> countries from entering. Referring to a post from the IETF general list,
> and looking back over past IETF meetings, you can see at least 18 different
> attendees (12 from Iran, 2 from Libya, 2 from Somalia, 1 from Yemen, And 1
> from Sudan) who would be barred from attending the Chicago meeting *in
> person*.
> 
> Following the Multistakeholder Principles and Rights we all have in mind I
> think it is appropriate for the IETF to respond to the United States' ban
> on people in Iran, Iraq, Libya, Somalia, Sudan, Syria, Yemen.
> 
> The question that came out from the list <ietf at ietf.org <mailto:ietf at ietf.org>> is, When this
> 
> happens, is there any specific action that can be taken? It is not clear to
> me, it is obviously impractical to cancel or move the meeting with so much
> notice.
> 
> We all know how many Iranians are world-class technologists, including
> computer science and engineering, and in order to respect the diversity of
> participation in these events, what efforts are being made?
> 
> What do we think about this? How this affects the Multistakeholder Model we
> are trying to preserve.
> 
> Nicolas Fiumarelli, from Uruguay, talking on behalf of Youth IGF Uruguay.
> 
> -
> 
> 
> 2017-01-30 10:29 GMT-03:00 Nyangkwe Agien Aaron <nyangkweagien at gmail.com <mailto:nyangkweagien at gmail.com>>:
> 
> Hi all
> 
> Why don't we ask ourselves why Mr Trump is coming out with "America first"
> now, other than the America for the whole world that was professed by the
> establishment?
> 
> Did some one ask Trump that question? Did some one listen to Trump's
> swearing in address?
> 
> Just because the ruling elite has been defeated, means that there should
> be no life in Thomas Jefferson's America again.
> 
> Wonderful America!
> 
> My prayers goes with President Donald Trump
> 
> Agien Nyangkwe (Aaron)
> 
> On Mon, Jan 30, 2017 at 10:05 AM, Arsène Tungali <arsenebaguma at gmail.com <mailto:arsenebaguma at gmail.com>>
> wrote:
> 
> I think it is still fine if he only apply this in the context of the US
> (i mean within the US borders). There is a way he can form a
> multistakeholderism process within the country and still be able to fulfill
> his America-First wish
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> 2017-01-30 4:35 GMT+02:00 Michael Gurstein <gurstein at gmail.com <mailto:gurstein at gmail.com>>:
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> A question, what does Multistakeholderism looking like in the context of
> Mr. Trump’s America First-ism?
> 
> 
> 
> Asking for a friend…
> 
> 
> 
> M
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