[governance] Multistakeholderism and Mr. Trump
Arsène Tungali
arsenebaguma at gmail.com
Mon Jan 30 11:22:07 EST 2017
Hi Dave,
How can we join the list? Please do share the link.
Regards,
A
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**Arsène Tungali**
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2017-01-30 17:25 GMT+02:00 Dave Burstein <daveb at dslprime.com>:
> There is an active discussion on the main IETF mailing list on whether the
> IETF has to move the Puerto Rico meeting next year. Anyone can join the
> IETF mailing list and weigh in.
>
> The (apparent) rules for selecting a venue include a "mandatory" review of
> whether "Travel barriers to entry, e.g., visa requirements that can
> limit participation, are acceptable."
>
> Please do weigh in on the discussion in IETF and ISOC.
>
> On Mon, Jan 30, 2017 at 10:17 AM, Nyangkwe Agien Aaron <
> nyangkweagien at gmail.com> wrote:
>
>> Thanks for the info
>>
>> In all fairness where were all these signatories when president Obama
>> banned Iraqi refugees from entering America for six months in 2011.
>>
>> Who are these intellectuals fooling?
>>
>> The establishment must understand that everything has a beginning and an
>> end. History is our best teache
>>
>> Agien Nyangkwe
>>
>> On Mon, Jan 30, 2017 at 3:54 PM, Mohamed ElGohary <ircpresident at gmail.com
>> > wrote:
>>
>>> I think this is a good move for starters: https://docs.google.
>>> com/forms/d/e/1FAIpQLSeNN_2HHREt1h-dm_CgWpFHw8NDPGLCkOwB4lLR
>>> FtKFJqI25w/viewform
>>> ᐧ
>>>
>>> On Mon, Jan 30, 2017 at 3:43 PM, Nicolas Fiumarelli <
>>> nicocamarao at gmail.com> wrote:
>>>
>>>> Hello List,
>>>>
>>>> As most of you know,
>>>>
>>>> The United States, at the time of the next IETF meeting in Chicago,
>>>> will still have the executive order that prevents anyone from seven
>>>> designated countries from entering. Referring to a post from the IETF
>>>> general list, and looking back over past IETF meetings, you can see at
>>>> least 18 different attendees (12 from Iran, 2 from Libya, 2 from Somalia, 1
>>>> from Yemen, And 1 from Sudan) who would be barred from attending the
>>>> Chicago meeting *in person*.
>>>>
>>>> Following the Multistakeholder Principles and Rights we all have in
>>>> mind I think it is appropriate for the IETF to respond to the United
>>>> States' ban on people in Iran, Iraq, Libya, Somalia, Sudan, Syria, Yemen.
>>>>
>>>> The question that came out from the list <ietf at ietf.org> is, When this
>>>> happens, is there any specific action that can be taken? It is not clear to
>>>> me, it is obviously impractical to cancel or move the meeting with so much
>>>> notice.
>>>>
>>>> We all know how many Iranians are world-class technologists, including
>>>> computer science and engineering, and in order to respect the diversity of
>>>> participation in these events, what efforts are being made?
>>>>
>>>> What do we think about this? How this affects the Multistakeholder
>>>> Model we are trying to preserve.
>>>>
>>>> Nicolas Fiumarelli, from Uruguay, talking on behalf of Youth IGF
>>>> Uruguay.
>>>>
>>>> -
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> 2017-01-30 10:29 GMT-03:00 Nyangkwe Agien Aaron <
>>>> nyangkweagien at gmail.com>:
>>>>
>>>>> Hi all
>>>>>
>>>>> Why don't we ask ourselves why Mr Trump is coming out with "America
>>>>> first" now, other than the America for the whole world that was professed
>>>>> by the establishment?
>>>>>
>>>>> Did some one ask Trump that question? Did some one listen to Trump's
>>>>> swearing in address?
>>>>>
>>>>> Just because the ruling elite has been defeated, means that there
>>>>> should be no life in Thomas Jefferson's America again.
>>>>>
>>>>> Wonderful America!
>>>>>
>>>>> My prayers goes with President Donald Trump
>>>>>
>>>>> Agien Nyangkwe (Aaron)
>>>>>
>>>>> On Mon, Jan 30, 2017 at 10:05 AM, Arsène Tungali <
>>>>> arsenebaguma at gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> I think it is still fine if he only apply this in the context of the
>>>>>> US (i mean within the US borders). There is a way he can form a
>>>>>> multistakeholderism process within the country and still be able to fulfill
>>>>>> his America-First wish
>>>>>>
>>>>>> ------------------------
>>>>>> **Arsène Tungali**
>>>>>> Co-Founder & Executive Director, *Rudi international
>>>>>> <http://www.rudiinternational.org>*,
>>>>>> CEO,* Smart Services Sarl <http://www.smart-serv.info>*, *Mabingwa
>>>>>> Forum <http://www.mabingwa-forum.com>*
>>>>>> Tel: +243 993810967 <+243%20993%20810%20967>
>>>>>> GPG: 523644A0
>>>>>> *Goma, Democratic Republic of Congo*
>>>>>>
>>>>>> 2015 Mandela Washington Felllow
>>>>>> <http://tungali.blogspot.com/2015/06/selected-for-2015-mandela-washington.html>
>>>>>> (YALI) - ISOC Ambassador (IGF Brazil
>>>>>> <http://www.internetsociety.org/what-we-do/education-and-leadership-programmes/next-generation-leaders/igf-ambassadors-programme/Past-Ambassadors>
>>>>>> & Mexico
>>>>>> <http://www.internetsociety.org/what-we-do/education-and-leadership-programmes/next-generation-leaders/Current-Ambassadors>)
>>>>>> - AFRISIG 2016 <http://afrisig.org/afrisig-2016/class-of-2016/> -
>>>>>> Blogger <http://tungali.blogspot.com> - ICANN Fellow (Los Angeles
>>>>>> <https://www.icann.org/news/announcement-2014-07-18-en> & Marrakech
>>>>>> <https://www.icann.org/resources/pages/marrakech55-attendees-2016-03-14-en>
>>>>>> ). AFRINIC Fellow (Mauritius
>>>>>> <http://www.afrinic.net/en/library/news/1907-afrinic-25-fellowship-winners>
>>>>>> )* - *IGFSA Member <http://www.igfsa.org/> - The HuffingtonPost UK
>>>>>> <http://www.huffingtonpost.co.uk/liza-bel/drc_b_8958150.html>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> 2017-01-30 4:35 GMT+02:00 Michael Gurstein <gurstein at gmail.com>:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> A question, what does Multistakeholderism looking like in the
>>>>>>> context of Mr. Trump’s America First-ism?
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Asking for a friend…
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> M
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