[governance] Multistakeholderism and Mr. Trump
Dave Burstein
daveb at dslprime.com
Mon Jan 30 10:25:17 EST 2017
There is an active discussion on the main IETF mailing list on whether the
IETF has to move the Puerto Rico meeting next year. Anyone can join the
IETF mailing list and weigh in.
The (apparent) rules for selecting a venue include a "mandatory" review of
whether "Travel barriers to entry, e.g., visa requirements that can limit
participation, are acceptable."
Please do weigh in on the discussion in IETF and ISOC.
On Mon, Jan 30, 2017 at 10:17 AM, Nyangkwe Agien Aaron <
nyangkweagien at gmail.com> wrote:
> Thanks for the info
>
> In all fairness where were all these signatories when president Obama
> banned Iraqi refugees from entering America for six months in 2011.
>
> Who are these intellectuals fooling?
>
> The establishment must understand that everything has a beginning and an
> end. History is our best teache
>
> Agien Nyangkwe
>
> On Mon, Jan 30, 2017 at 3:54 PM, Mohamed ElGohary <ircpresident at gmail.com>
> wrote:
>
>> I think this is a good move for starters: https://docs.google.
>> com/forms/d/e/1FAIpQLSeNN_2HHREt1h-dm_CgWpFHw8NDPGLCkOwB4lLR
>> FtKFJqI25w/viewform
>> ᐧ
>>
>> On Mon, Jan 30, 2017 at 3:43 PM, Nicolas Fiumarelli <
>> nicocamarao at gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>>> Hello List,
>>>
>>> As most of you know,
>>>
>>> The United States, at the time of the next IETF meeting in Chicago, will
>>> still have the executive order that prevents anyone from seven designated
>>> countries from entering. Referring to a post from the IETF general list,
>>> and looking back over past IETF meetings, you can see at least 18 different
>>> attendees (12 from Iran, 2 from Libya, 2 from Somalia, 1 from Yemen, And 1
>>> from Sudan) who would be barred from attending the Chicago meeting *in
>>> person*.
>>>
>>> Following the Multistakeholder Principles and Rights we all have in mind
>>> I think it is appropriate for the IETF to respond to the United States' ban
>>> on people in Iran, Iraq, Libya, Somalia, Sudan, Syria, Yemen.
>>>
>>> The question that came out from the list <ietf at ietf.org> is, When this
>>> happens, is there any specific action that can be taken? It is not clear to
>>> me, it is obviously impractical to cancel or move the meeting with so much
>>> notice.
>>>
>>> We all know how many Iranians are world-class technologists, including
>>> computer science and engineering, and in order to respect the diversity of
>>> participation in these events, what efforts are being made?
>>>
>>> What do we think about this? How this affects the Multistakeholder Model
>>> we are trying to preserve.
>>>
>>> Nicolas Fiumarelli, from Uruguay, talking on behalf of Youth IGF Uruguay.
>>>
>>> -
>>>
>>>
>>> 2017-01-30 10:29 GMT-03:00 Nyangkwe Agien Aaron <nyangkweagien at gmail.com
>>> >:
>>>
>>>> Hi all
>>>>
>>>> Why don't we ask ourselves why Mr Trump is coming out with "America
>>>> first" now, other than the America for the whole world that was professed
>>>> by the establishment?
>>>>
>>>> Did some one ask Trump that question? Did some one listen to Trump's
>>>> swearing in address?
>>>>
>>>> Just because the ruling elite has been defeated, means that there
>>>> should be no life in Thomas Jefferson's America again.
>>>>
>>>> Wonderful America!
>>>>
>>>> My prayers goes with President Donald Trump
>>>>
>>>> Agien Nyangkwe (Aaron)
>>>>
>>>> On Mon, Jan 30, 2017 at 10:05 AM, Arsène Tungali <
>>>> arsenebaguma at gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> I think it is still fine if he only apply this in the context of the
>>>>> US (i mean within the US borders). There is a way he can form a
>>>>> multistakeholderism process within the country and still be able to fulfill
>>>>> his America-First wish
>>>>>
>>>>> ------------------------
>>>>> **Arsène Tungali**
>>>>> Co-Founder & Executive Director, *Rudi international
>>>>> <http://www.rudiinternational.org>*,
>>>>> CEO,* Smart Services Sarl <http://www.smart-serv.info>*, *Mabingwa
>>>>> Forum <http://www.mabingwa-forum.com>*
>>>>> Tel: +243 993810967 <+243%20993%20810%20967>
>>>>> GPG: 523644A0
>>>>> *Goma, Democratic Republic of Congo*
>>>>>
>>>>> 2015 Mandela Washington Felllow
>>>>> <http://tungali.blogspot.com/2015/06/selected-for-2015-mandela-washington.html>
>>>>> (YALI) - ISOC Ambassador (IGF Brazil
>>>>> <http://www.internetsociety.org/what-we-do/education-and-leadership-programmes/next-generation-leaders/igf-ambassadors-programme/Past-Ambassadors>
>>>>> & Mexico
>>>>> <http://www.internetsociety.org/what-we-do/education-and-leadership-programmes/next-generation-leaders/Current-Ambassadors>)
>>>>> - AFRISIG 2016 <http://afrisig.org/afrisig-2016/class-of-2016/> -
>>>>> Blogger <http://tungali.blogspot.com> - ICANN Fellow (Los Angeles
>>>>> <https://www.icann.org/news/announcement-2014-07-18-en> & Marrakech
>>>>> <https://www.icann.org/resources/pages/marrakech55-attendees-2016-03-14-en>
>>>>> ). AFRINIC Fellow (Mauritius
>>>>> <http://www.afrinic.net/en/library/news/1907-afrinic-25-fellowship-winners>
>>>>> )* - *IGFSA Member <http://www.igfsa.org/> - The HuffingtonPost UK
>>>>> <http://www.huffingtonpost.co.uk/liza-bel/drc_b_8958150.html>
>>>>>
>>>>> 2017-01-30 4:35 GMT+02:00 Michael Gurstein <gurstein at gmail.com>:
>>>>>
>>>>>> A question, what does Multistakeholderism looking like in the context
>>>>>> of Mr. Trump’s America First-ism?
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Asking for a friend…
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> M
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