[governance] [Internet Policy] Internet Governance Outlook 2017: Nationalistic Hierarchies vs. Multistakeholder Networks?

[srajukanumuri]

Dear Friends ,

 Every country have its own priorities about their growth ,to become global
 Ramabo or Regional Rambo;s to have say in the region for power commerce
 and lastly to save territorial sovereignty  at cost of developing countries
 poor countries and lastly United nation top 7 countries trying to control
 every thing or have stamp " SUPER POWER " and present Geo political
 differences. Is Globalization is bad or good we communities of world must
 decide and also we must decide " open Internet " secure internet and "
good and honest "
 internet locally regionally country wide and globally r also important to
save every
 bodies privacy and also self growth rather than 1 percent of world's rich
and lastly
 every body must be secured and must given opportunity to  have happy
monthly income.

 LAN , MAN , WAN , SAN ( states Areas Net ), CAN ( country Area Net )
LANGNET ( launguge nets ) ,DAN ( district area Net )  intra netsextra intra
nets Intra extra nets etc needs of people / thinking is important and also
different,

 As village  person , un educated person my needs are local and my district
wise my sate wise it is enough for me  to live happy and lastly more fake
news fake info excess info is really killing humanity and also
communication packets are distracting in different forms from origin to
destination  this waves are also getting converted based on local
politicians needs and media powers and millions of news sites / Individual
blogs etc

the human nets may be divided into MAN ( man area Nets ) , WAN ( woman area
nets ) GAN ( Gay area nets ) , LIsN( lesbian Area nets ) AAN ( Animals Area
Net), EAN ( ECOSYSTEM AREA NET) .

All human rights , liberty are one and living needs are one. ( food house
energy security health health spirituality ) etc

our brains have three different minds fore brain mid brain and hind brain
.like wise the news fore caste middle caste hidden caste which is rich
middle class poor connected with three
types of knowledge to decide communities to vote left right and center wing
parties.

Let us vote for one internet which can serve people at local communities
needed and
lastly for every family / human 49 connected people in their 70 years
living ( 7 10 years cycles ) , 7 root keys for Internet is important and
these are divided into husband wife
girl child boy child , one friend tell they are good , one enemy to tell
they are bad
and one neutrality to say yes or no or lastly Global " GODSNET " to make
net
earth net to be " ZERO " OR  " ONE " lastly " SILENT " states to make
Internet destiny
and global life 's destiny in place to live for next 1000 years make self
sustainable earth
cycle's to move on for ever . And lastly For better life HUMAN GOVERNANCE
is imp that is rules and regulations for every house to serve humanities ,
eco system was written already. but humans wont follow. ?

But *constituent ANALYSIS  *of education , Reforms , empowerment , Nirvana
of races can do miracles .To create new better World happy world.

Good day to you all and lets us create new disruptions in next three years
before next
elections for new leaders crazy leaders etc









" We Connect human contacts "
" We  make net to think and act "
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on Bartering of knowledge Globally with out money as instrument "
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On Mon, Jan 23, 2017 at 3:15 AM, willi uebelherr <willi.uebelherr at riseup.net
> wrote:

>
> Internet Governance Outlook 2017: Nationalistic Hierarchies vs.
> Multistakeholder Networks?
> By Wolfgang Kleinwächter, Jan 06, 2017
> http://www.circleid.com/posts/20160106_internet_outlook_2017
> _nationalistic_hierarchies_multistakeholder/
>
> Dear friends,
>
> Wolfgang Kleinwaechter has made an outlook on the year 2017 and looks
> scared at the strengthening of regional self-control, which he calls
> "Nationalistic Hierarchies". But he ignores today's "Inter-Nationalistic
> hierarchies", which also work with "multistakeholder networks".
>
> Wolfgang Kleinwaechter, whom I estimate very highly, is strictly
> interested in an open Internet based on "multistakeholder networks". And
> that's what he does. But he does not see the snares that he put itself at
> his feet.
>
> IANA Transition and the Chinese Cybersecurity Law
>
> In the text is asserted that the IANA Transition is a "bottom-up" and the
> Chinese Law a "top-down" development process. Of course, we can say many
> things. But if we know a little bit about the USA, we know, that a
> bottom-up method in the telecommunication will be impossible in the USA.
> This, because the actors are the centralistic state and the centralistic
> private groups. In such an environment a bottom-up process is impossible.
>
> For China, where the telecommunication is a project of the society, there
> it can be possible. Also in Russia and Iran. But never in Europe today. And
> absolutly never in Germany today. The space of possibilities for
> telecommunication is primary defined from the inner structure of a society.
> Only if the actors don't have his private interests, that are oriented
> against the other actors, they can really cooperate.
>
> In China and Russland and Iran they can transform the connection
> infrastructure to a net-structure, the base condition for a bottom-up
> development process in the telecommunication. For Europe and North America
> with his fighter groups every one against all others it will be impossible.
> Only if the Communities start as actors in the space of community networks,
> then they can do it. This, because the telecommunication stays for them in
> the foreground.
>
> This activity space for an open telecommunication, a pre-condition for the
> connectivity structure and the summary of all forms of telecommunication
> like web-pages and data-files, audio/video streams, telefon, radio and tv,
> brings us to a level that we can say: 3 types of data (text, grafic,
> speech) and 2 forms of transport (asynchron, synchron).
>
> Wolfgang wrote about "ideologically overloaded Internet Governance
> language" and means China. But all documents from the IGF, what i have
> read, are pure "ideologically overloaded Internet Governance language".
> Never you find any conrete discussion about the basics of
> telecommunication. You find only phraseology.
>
> The Internet Governance Ecosystem as a "Virtual Rainforest"
>
> I don't know, where Wolfgang live. But i know, we have to separate our
> strong analysis of a real system and our dreams, our visions. I know,
> without our dreams we will be unable to create our visions and
> perspectives. Therefore, we can spaek about opportunities, that really
> exist. But they remain opportunities and are unreal, virtual.
>
> Then we can go deeper and look for the specific actors. We analyse her
> interst and her bases of her being. Then we understand, what opportunities
> we have with this actors.
>
> This is the driving motor for the community networks. Because they see
> clear, what space of activities they have with this real actors. Therefore
> they create another space of actors with a much greater space of
> opportunities.
>
> The existence of diversity need the decentralisation and parallelisation.
> In the nature, of course. But if we want to use our methodology for
> centralisation in an act for diversity, we will fail.
>
> US vs. China: Chances for a Digital Detente
>
> The only risk of a "hot cyberwar" i see it in the USA. NSA, home security
> and all this many security services. The most people on our planet know it.
> How it is possible, that a high active person like Wolfgang in the UN IGF
> environment don't know it? Maybe, he know, but don't like it and create his
> virtual reality? Then he live in another space. Outside of our space. I
> don't know where.
>
> Wolfgang wrote about the "National Cyberspace Security Strategy" from
> China "for treason, secession, revolt, subversion or stealing or leaking of
> state secrets would be punished". But the same is valid for USA, Canada,
> all european countries. We see it with Daniel Ellsberg, Eric Snowden,
> Julian Assange, Chelsea Manning and many many others from so many countries
> in all centuries. Go to the Wikipedia and search Whistleblowers. Analyse
> her doing and her repression. Then we understand, that this theme have no
> specific value for USA and China.
>
> It is embedded in the general conflict between people and state. And
> because the state act for the rich group in her region, the conflict is
> between the poor and the rich people. Or, like Stiglitz say, between the
> 99% and the 1%.
>
> And i will say very clear. As long as this UN IGF groups act in the same
> separated space outside of the public space, based on her traditional
> representative self-imagination, they will never be part of a creative
> transition for our global interconnection in the telecommunication.
>
> And endless chain of governmental and non-governmental negotiations
> Summit Meetings
>
> This is the only thing, what they have and for what they are interested.
> It is based on the functions for what they are created.
>
> Remaining Peace between ICANN and ITU?
>
> "... 1000 new gTLDs ... 25 million with gTLD .. is not bad."
>
> Wolfgang Kleinwaechter don't understand the principles of an open
> telecommunication in form of an InterNet. Our focus are the ccTLDs and not
> the private gTLDs to make domain business. But this is more a question to
> our philosophy. Are we intersted to be slaves of some big Dollar groups or
> are we intersted for an open global working telecommunication. Every person
> itself have to find her answer.
>
> The Key Role of the IGF
>
> ".. that the IGF has matured". I can say very clear NO. It is the same
> "kindergarten" since his beginning. They act in a virtual space, are driven
> from group egoism everywhere, are observers of observers ... and don't have
> his own clear perspectives.
>
> Of course, they have the potential to formulate clear principles of an
> open globally telecommunication. But they don't like that to do. They like
> more to act as soldiers for others.
>
> We have the same situation in the ISOC, the Internet Society. It is clear,
> this is a society without any specific relation to state, private companies
> or governments. They act outside of this nationalism. Or should do it.
>
> UN IGF and ISOC can have a big power, if they are responsible to the
> people and not to the power groups. With her regional chapters they can
> help to distribute our discussions and proposals over the planet. But
> today, we can say, they don't do it, because they don't like to do it.
>
> Maybe, it is a result of her financial base for her event-tourism. But if
> we work for telecommunication, we should start to use it for our
> interaction and not to travel around the planet. We can reduce the efforts
> and can opening the space on this way.
>
> "... the failure of ACTA, the Trans-Pacific Partnership (TPP) or the
> Trans-Atlantic Trade and Investment Pact (TTIP) is the result of this clash
> of cultures". This is a big nonsense. The diversity in our local/regional
> cultures is the reality and we love it. And we need it.
>
> The conflicts comes from small power groups against the world population,
> the people on our planet in her different regions. And we know, that today
> also the people in her region have not developed her power for
> self-organising and self-determination. The regionale elites act for the
> global elites and not for the local people.
>
> ".. discussing IOT related issues". There don't exist specific IOT related
> issues. It exist issues to the routing mechanism based on the IP addresses.
> If we use our intelligence for this issues we will never organise this
> nonsense, what we have today.
>
> ...
> Basket 4: Technology
>
> ".. the technological development as such has become an issue in itself".
> I know, Wolfgang don't understand the technology. So, we have to explain:
> The technology was and is always the base of telecommunication. Therefore,
> for us, the technology always stay in the center. And not the cheap
> chatters in any meetings or IGF proposals.
>
> Looking Ahead: Everything is linked to Everything
>
> Yes, dear Wolfgang. "We have to design global discussions and
> negotiations" on telecommunication, and not on Internet Governance. If we
> need Governance, then we make some errors.
>
> "The Internet is a network of networks, connected via universal technical
> protocols". No, Wolfgang. The protocols do nothing. The interconnection,
> the transport of packets, do that. The protocols are only necessary, that
> we do the same thing and understand, how the others work.
>
> The attempt of a resume
>
> If we act on false bases then we are unable to find good solutions.
> Independent, how strong we work. I you, Wolfgang, start with negation of
> regional self-determination and act on the base of global top-down
> formation then you will be never able to find good ways. Then you live in a
> circle of self-explanations. You act in your own ideologic space without
> the connection to the reality.
>
> Of course, you can do it. And maybe, this is your job to do it.
>
> The starting point for us is, that all people on our planet can use this
> global telecommunication system to interconnect herself with any other
> people on our planet. For what is her decision.
>
> The easiest way to do that is the way of strong decentralisation. Then the
> people in all and any region on our planet can create her part of our
> global telecommunication. That all this people can independent act we
> create our global network for free technology.
>
> In the text to Internet Fragmentation, what you wrote together with V.Cerf
> and W.Drake, you wrote about:
> "From a technical standpoint, the original shared vision guiding the
> Internet’s development was that every device on the Internet should be able
> to exchange data packets with any other device that was willing to receive
> them".
>
> We know from Albert Einstein:
> "The genius is always simple"
>
> This principles we can follow. Why you, Wolfgang, follow this confusion in
> the UN IGF, i don't understand.
>
> Based on our physical interconnection we can implement very easy
> mechanism, that the packets find her way through the routers.
>
> With a decentralised DNS system based on ccTLDs it is very easy for us to
> get any IP address from any host in any gloabal region.
>
> In general, it is the responsiblity for the people in the different
> regions to organise, what they need. And we, in the UN IGF and ISOC, and i
> hope also in the World Social Forums, we can support the people everywhere
> to do itself.
>
> many greetings, willi
> Asuncion, Paraguay
>
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