[governance] Internet Shutdown: An IGC Statement to the ISOC Cameroon Chapter?

Arsène Tungali arsenebaguma at gmail.com
Fri Feb 3 03:08:41 EST 2017


Thanks Raul,

I am glad a top official staff member of ISOC was able to respond to our
letter and we are glad you are a member of this list, so are few other ISOC
staff members that I just accepted to join.

As an ISOC member and an Ambassador to the IGF, I have good knwoledge about
ISOC's principles, which I believe in. As you can see, this discussion
brought in a lot of comment because we all care about ensuring an open
Internet to everyone. We oppose such actions from any government or any
other stakeholder who is using Internet shutdown as a way to solve an issue
whatsoever, not only because we are a civil society group but because as
you say, the results are always the contrary of what they expected in
taking such an action.

However, I noted the bellow quote from you about ISOC Cameroon:

*We are in permanent dialogue with our Cameroon Chapter expecting to
provide more clarity to the community on this issue,  and we continue
expressing our willingness to work with all stakeholders, including of
course the government of Cameroon, for addressing their concerns in a way
that don’t compromise the ability of all the people to connect to the
internet and to benefit from that access in terms of social, human and
economic development.*

and really hope we will hear back from you on this list about the outcome
of your conversation with the leadership of that specific chapter.

Best regards,
Arsene

------------------------
**Arsène Tungali**
Co-Founder & Executive Director, *Rudi international
<http://www.rudiinternational.org>*,
CEO,* Smart Services Sarl <http://www.smart-serv.info>*, *Mabingwa Forum
<http://www.mabingwa-forum.com>*
Tel: +243 993810967
GPG: 523644A0
*Goma, Democratic Republic of Congo*

2015 Mandela Washington Felllow
<http://tungali.blogspot.com/2015/06/selected-for-2015-mandela-washington.html>
(YALI) - ISOC Ambassador (IGF Brazil
<http://www.internetsociety.org/what-we-do/education-and-leadership-programmes/next-generation-leaders/igf-ambassadors-programme/Past-Ambassadors>
& Mexico
<http://www.internetsociety.org/what-we-do/education-and-leadership-programmes/next-generation-leaders/Current-Ambassadors>)
- AFRISIG 2016 <http://afrisig.org/afrisig-2016/class-of-2016/> - Blogger
<http://tungali.blogspot.com> - ICANN Fellow (Los Angeles
<https://www.icann.org/news/announcement-2014-07-18-en> & Marrakech
<https://www.icann.org/resources/pages/marrakech55-attendees-2016-03-14-en>
). AFRINIC Fellow (Mauritius
<http://www.afrinic.net/en/library/news/1907-afrinic-25-fellowship-winners>)*
- *IGFSA Member <http://www.igfsa.org/> - The HuffingtonPost UK
<http://www.huffingtonpost.co.uk/liza-bel/drc_b_8958150.html>

2017-02-02 20:50 GMT+02:00 Raul Echeberria <echeberria at isoc.org>:

>
> Dear all:
>
>
> I would like to reiterare Internet Society position about Internet
> shutdowns not only in Cameroon, but in any part of the world.
>
> www.internetsociety.org/lets-keep-internet-everyone?utm_
> content=bufferc442c&utm_medium=social&utm_source=twitter.com&utm_campaign=
> buffer
>
> This position is very consistent with the open access principles we have
> promoted for the last 25 years.
> We recognize that there could be different views on this point, even from
> people related to ISOC community and/or to the Internet Society Cameroon
> chapter. That continue being our position  on this matter.
>
> I respectfully insist in the fact that even in the cases in which the
> government take decisions of limiting Internet access based on apparently
> justified reasons, the consequences of those restrictions are always the
> opposite of what they intend to achieve. There are no good justifications
> for cutting Interne access to the people.
>
> We are in permanent dialogue with our Cameroon Chapter expecting to
> provide more clarity to the community on this issue,  and we continue
> expressing our willingness to work with all stakeholders, including of
> course the government of Cameroon, for addressing their concerns in a way
> that don’t compromise the ability of all the people to connect to the
> internet and to benefit from that access in terms of social, human and
> economic development.
>
> Best regards,
>
>
> Raúl Echeberría
> Internet Society
> VP Global Engagement
>
>
>
>
>
>
> El 2 feb. 2017, a las 10:11, Arsène Tungali <arsenebaguma at gmail.com>
> escribió:
>
> Thank you everyone for your emails of support.
> We are now getting ready to submit the letter to the appropriate persons.
>
>
> ------------------------
> **Arsène Tungali**
> Co-Founder & Executive Director, *Rudi international
> <http://www.rudiinternational.org/>*,
> CEO,* Smart Services Sarl <http://www.smart-serv.info/>*, *Mabingwa Forum
> <http://www.mabingwa-forum.com/>*
> Tel: +243 993810967 <+243%20993%20810%20967>
> GPG: 523644A0
> *Goma, Democratic Republic of Congo*
>
> 2015 Mandela Washington Felllow
> <http://tungali.blogspot.com/2015/06/selected-for-2015-mandela-washington.html>
> (YALI) - ISOC Ambassador (IGF Brazil
> <http://www.internetsociety.org/what-we-do/education-and-leadership-programmes/next-generation-leaders/igf-ambassadors-programme/Past-Ambassadors>
> & Mexico
> <http://www.internetsociety.org/what-we-do/education-and-leadership-programmes/next-generation-leaders/Current-Ambassadors>)
> - AFRISIG 2016 <http://afrisig.org/afrisig-2016/class-of-2016/> - Blogger
> <http://tungali.blogspot.com/> - ICANN Fellow (Los Angeles
> <https://www.icann.org/news/announcement-2014-07-18-en> & Marrakech
> <https://www.icann.org/resources/pages/marrakech55-attendees-2016-03-14-en>
> ). AFRINIC Fellow (Mauritius
> <http://www.afrinic.net/en/library/news/1907-afrinic-25-fellowship-winners>
> )* - *IGFSA Member <http://www.igfsa.org/> - The HuffingtonPost UK
> <http://www.huffingtonpost.co.uk/liza-bel/drc_b_8958150.html>
>
> 2017-02-02 9:58 GMT+02:00 Lorena Jaume-Palasi <lorena at collaboratory.de>:
>
>> +1
>>
>>
>> 2017-02-02 8:40 GMT+01:00 Akinremi Peter Taiwo <compsoftnet at gmail.com>:
>>
>>> Hope it's not too late. I also support and therefore endorsed the letter.
>>>
>>> Thanks
>>> Peter.
>>> On Feb 1, 2017 4:31 PM, "Nyangkwe Agien Aaron" <nyangkweagien at gmail.com>
>>> wrote:
>>>
>>>> I endorse it totally
>>>>
>>>> Agien Nyangkwe
>>>>
>>>> On Wed, Feb 1, 2017 at 4:26 PM, Arsène Tungali <arsenebaguma at gmail.com>
>>>> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> Hi everyone,
>>>>>
>>>>> Thanks Mawaki for your comments and explanation about the spirit
>>>>> behind the letter.
>>>>>
>>>>> Thanks Anriette and everyone who made a comment or approved it
>>>>> already.
>>>>>
>>>>> As promised, we have few hours for us to close it and send it.
>>>>> So, if you have an addition or a comment, please feel free to write to
>>>>> the list.
>>>>>
>>>>> Regards,
>>>>> A
>>>>>
>>>>> ------------------------
>>>>> **Arsène Tungali**
>>>>> Co-Founder & Executive Director, *Rudi international
>>>>> <http://www.rudiinternational.org/>*,
>>>>> CEO,* Smart Services Sarl <http://www.smart-serv.info/>*, *Mabingwa
>>>>> Forum <http://www.mabingwa-forum.com/>*
>>>>> Tel: +243 993810967 <+243%20993%20810%20967>
>>>>> GPG: 523644A0
>>>>> *Goma, Democratic Republic of Congo*
>>>>>
>>>>> 2015 Mandela Washington Felllow
>>>>> <http://tungali.blogspot.com/2015/06/selected-for-2015-mandela-washington.html>
>>>>> (YALI) - ISOC Ambassador (IGF Brazil
>>>>> <http://www.internetsociety.org/what-we-do/education-and-leadership-programmes/next-generation-leaders/igf-ambassadors-programme/Past-Ambassadors>
>>>>> & Mexico
>>>>> <http://www.internetsociety.org/what-we-do/education-and-leadership-programmes/next-generation-leaders/Current-Ambassadors>)
>>>>> - AFRISIG 2016 <http://afrisig.org/afrisig-2016/class-of-2016/> -
>>>>> Blogger <http://tungali.blogspot.com/> - ICANN Fellow (Los Angeles
>>>>> <https://www.icann.org/news/announcement-2014-07-18-en> & Marrakech
>>>>> <https://www.icann.org/resources/pages/marrakech55-attendees-2016-03-14-en>
>>>>> ). AFRINIC Fellow (Mauritius
>>>>> <http://www.afrinic.net/en/library/news/1907-afrinic-25-fellowship-winners>
>>>>> )* - *IGFSA Member <http://www.igfsa.org/> - The HuffingtonPost UK
>>>>> <http://www.huffingtonpost.co.uk/liza-bel/drc_b_8958150.html>
>>>>>
>>>>> 2017-02-01 17:15 GMT+02:00 Anriette Esterhuysen <anriette at apc.org>:
>>>>>
>>>>>> The letter looks very good to me. Apologies for missing the deadline.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Anriette
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> On 01/02/2017 11:18, Mawaki Chango wrote:
>>>>>> > Dear Arsène et al.
>>>>>> >
>>>>>> > We deliberately decided to keep it short, on purpose. This should
>>>>>> not be
>>>>>> > approached as an input from IGC to a complex global policy issue,
>>>>>> on the
>>>>>> > world stage. (Not to mention that we did not want this to get into
>>>>>> > endless debates as IGC is accustomed to.) Neither did we want it to
>>>>>> take
>>>>>> > a turn to, or us to be suspected of, lecturing. That's why we
>>>>>> further
>>>>>> > motivated the exercise, with a narrow focus, by recalling the
>>>>>> specific
>>>>>> > communication that prompted it.
>>>>>> >
>>>>>> > You can see from Javier's first response that even those precautions
>>>>>> > prove not to be enough to warrant our declaration, in his view.
>>>>>> > Apparently he would want us to withdraw altogether from, and keep
>>>>>> quiet,
>>>>>> > on the issue (if I'm being mistaken here on the implications of your
>>>>>> > response, I stand to be corrected.)
>>>>>> >
>>>>>> > In the meantime, I personally think our above described precautions
>>>>>> > should suffice. The statement doesn't get into the presumably
>>>>>> complex
>>>>>> > political and security issues that the government might be dealing
>>>>>> with
>>>>>> > on the ground. In the communication that prompted our statement,
>>>>>> maybe
>>>>>> > Janvier just got carried away in an attempt to avoid a wholesale
>>>>>> > condemnation of his country in the global community of civil
>>>>>> society.
>>>>>> > But the email posted is there including terms and a rationale which
>>>>>> are
>>>>>> > unacceptable to us, and we needed to express our concern and
>>>>>> register
>>>>>> > our disapproval of such. We are not making claims as to how hard
>>>>>> working
>>>>>> > and committed ISOC Cameroon may or may not be toward facilitating
>>>>>> > Internet access to all in Cameroon, in ordinary times.
>>>>>> >
>>>>>> > Mawaki
>>>>>> >
>>>>>> > On Feb 1, 2017 6:13 AM, "Arsène Tungali" <arsenebaguma at gmail.com
>>>>>> > <mailto:arsenebaguma at gmail.com>> wrote:
>>>>>> >
>>>>>> >     Dear Norbert, Mawaki,
>>>>>> >
>>>>>> >     Thank you for the draft as suggested. It is very short, i
>>>>>> wonder if
>>>>>> >     anyone who was not part of these discussions or who will see it
>>>>>> for
>>>>>> >     the first time on our website will be able to understand the
>>>>>> >     background. Just thinking outloud :)
>>>>>> >
>>>>>> >     I leave it open to the community for comments, etc if
>>>>>> applicable. I
>>>>>> >     suggest we close it by 11:pm UTC this Feb 1st.
>>>>>> >
>>>>>> >     We will then post it on our website and send it to the
>>>>>> appropriate
>>>>>> >     persons, to follow the process as agreed here.
>>>>>> >
>>>>>> >     Meanwhile, i see Mr Janvier already responded (which is a good
>>>>>> sign
>>>>>> >     imo) and i suggest we discuss his response once we have formally
>>>>>> >     sent this letter.
>>>>>> >
>>>>>> >     Hope this is fine with you'all.
>>>>>> >
>>>>>> >     Thanks,
>>>>>> >     A
>>>>>> >     -----------------
>>>>>> >     Arsène Tungali,
>>>>>> >     @arsenebaguma
>>>>>> >     +243 993810967 <tel:%2B243%20993810967 <%2B243%20993810967>>
>>>>>> >     GPG: 523644A0
>>>>>> >     Goma, Democratic Republic of Congo
>>>>>> >
>>>>>> >     Sent from my iPhone (excuse typos)
>>>>>> >
>>>>>> >     > On Jan 31, 2017, at 9:32 PM, Norbert Bollow <nb at bollow.ch
>>>>>> >     <mailto:nb at bollow.ch>> wrote:
>>>>>> >     >
>>>>>> >     > Dear Arsène and all
>>>>>> >     >
>>>>>> >     > Please find our proposal at
>>>>>> >     >
>>>>>> >     >
>>>>>> >     https://docs.google.com/document/d/1pQjEQ5UtR4D7f0HYeJsK0up
>>>>>> PKnJTEyWULk-fUSajTd8/edit
>>>>>> >     <https://docs.google.com/document/d/1pQjEQ5UtR4D7f0HYeJsK0u
>>>>>> pPKnJTEyWULk-fUSajTd8/edit>
>>>>>> >     >
>>>>>> >     > I'm also including the text below.
>>>>>> >     >
>>>>>> >     > Greetings,
>>>>>> >     > Norbert
>>>>>> >     >
>>>>>> >     >
>>>>>> >     > -- draft starts --
>>>>>> >     > To the ISOC Cameroon Chapter
>>>>>> >     >
>>>>>> >     > Dear Colleagues
>>>>>> >     >
>>>>>> >     > The Civil Society Internet Governance Caucus (IGC,
>>>>>> >     http://igcaucus.org)
>>>>>> >     > is a global network of civil society actors who originally
>>>>>> came
>>>>>> >     > together in the context of the World Summit on the
>>>>>> Information Society
>>>>>> >     > (WSIS) to promote global public interest objectives in
>>>>>> Internet
>>>>>> >     > governance policy making.
>>>>>> >     >
>>>>>> >     > We are firmly convinced that Internet shutdowns are not
>>>>>> acceptable in
>>>>>> >     > regard to any region and not justifiable in any way, and that
>>>>>> such
>>>>>> >     > shutdowns must be opposed vigorously.
>>>>>> >     >
>>>>>> >     > We would have expected everyone who associates themselves
>>>>>> with ISOC to
>>>>>> >     > be committed to ISOC's principle stating that “The Internet
>>>>>> is for
>>>>>> >     > Everyone”.
>>>>>> >     >
>>>>>> >     > For further elaboration of the important principle of
>>>>>> /Internet access
>>>>>> >     > and affordability/ along with related rights and freedoms, we
>>>>>> refer to
>>>>>> >     > the African Declaration on Internet Rights and Freedoms,
>>>>>> >     > http://africaninternetrights.org/articles/
>>>>>> >     <http://africaninternetrights.org/articles/> .
>>>>>> >     >
>>>>>> >     > In light of these principles and rights, we would like to
>>>>>> respectfully
>>>>>> >     > urge the ISOC Cameroon Chapter to adopt a corresponding
>>>>>> strong stance
>>>>>> >     > in regard to Internet shutdowns in some regions of the
>>>>>> country, and to
>>>>>> >     > denounce and oppose such dreadful measures with all
>>>>>> earnestness.
>>>>>> >     >
>>>>>> >     > The reason why we write to you in this matter is a posting to
>>>>>> our
>>>>>> >     > mailing list on January 26, 2017, which was signed “ISOC
>>>>>> Cameroon,
>>>>>> >     > President” and which expressed views that were not at all
>>>>>> consistent
>>>>>> >     > with the above.
>>>>>> >     >
>>>>>> >     > Best regards
>>>>>> >     > Internet Governance Caucus (IGC)
>>>>>> >     >
>>>>>> >     >
>>>>>> >     >
>>>>>> >     > Cc: ISOC’s regional contact for Africa, bekele at isoc.org
>>>>>> >     <mailto:bekele at isoc.org>
>>>>>> >     >
>>>>>> >     > -- draft ends --
>>>>>> >     >
>>>>>> >     >
>>>>>> >     >
>>>>>> >     >
>>>>>> >     >
>>>>>> >     > On Mon, 30 Jan 2017 17:54:30 +0200
>>>>>> >     > Arsène Tungali <arsenebaguma at gmail.com
>>>>>> >     <mailto:arsenebaguma at gmail.com>> wrote:
>>>>>> >     >
>>>>>> >     >> Dear Norbert,
>>>>>> >     >>
>>>>>> >     >> Thanks for Mawaki and yourself for willing to take on this
>>>>>> task. I am
>>>>>> >     >> happy with the process as you suggest it (with the hope that
>>>>>> everyone
>>>>>> >     >> is happy as well): writing to ISOC Cameroon with cc to ISOC
>>>>>> Global.
>>>>>> >     >>
>>>>>> >     >> Please do send us the draft once finalized and we will allow
>>>>>> at least
>>>>>> >     >> 24 hours for the IGC to comment before this can be sent.
>>>>>> Please do
>>>>>> >     >> share it in a Google Drive (do not allow edit by anyone but
>>>>>> just
>>>>>> >     >> allow people to make contributions in form of comments in
>>>>>> the margins
>>>>>> >     >> of the doc).
>>>>>> >     >>
>>>>>> >     >> Regards,
>>>>>> >     >> A
>>>>>> >     >>
>>>>>> >     >> ------------------------
>>>>>> >     >> **Arsène Tungali**
>>>>>> >     >> Co-Founder & Executive Director, *Rudi international
>>>>>> >     >> <http://www.rudiinternational.org
>>>>>> >     <http://www.rudiinternational.org>>*,
>>>>>> >     >> CEO,* Smart Services Sarl <http://www.smart-serv.info>*,
>>>>>> *Mabingwa
>>>>>> >     >> Forum <http://www.mabingwa-forum.com>*
>>>>>> >     >> Tel: +243 993810967 <tel:%2B243%20993810967
>>>>>> <%2B243%20993810967>>
>>>>>> >     >> GPG: 523644A0
>>>>>> >     >> *Goma, Democratic Republic of Congo*
>>>>>> >     >>
>>>>>> >     >> 2015 Mandela Washington Felllow
>>>>>> >     >>
>>>>>> >     <http://tungali.blogspot.com/2015/06/selected-for-2015-mand
>>>>>> ela-washington.html
>>>>>> >     <http://tungali.blogspot.com/2015/06/selected-for-2015-mand
>>>>>> ela-washington.html>>
>>>>>> >     >> (YALI) - ISOC Ambassador (IGF Brazil
>>>>>> >     >>
>>>>>> >     <http://www.internetsociety.org/what-we-do/education-and-le
>>>>>> adership-programmes/next-generation-leaders/igf-ambassadors-
>>>>>> programme/Past-Ambassadors
>>>>>> >     <http://www.internetsociety.org/what-we-do/education-and-le
>>>>>> adership-programmes/next-generation-leaders/igf-ambassadors-
>>>>>> programme/Past-Ambassadors>>
>>>>>> >     >> & Mexico
>>>>>> >     >>
>>>>>> >     <http://www.internetsociety.org/what-we-do/education-and-le
>>>>>> adership-programmes/next-generation-leaders/Current-Ambassadors
>>>>>> >     <http://www.internetsociety.org/what-we-do/education-and-le
>>>>>> adership-programmes/next-generation-leaders/Current-Ambassadors>>)
>>>>>> >     >> - AFRISIG 2016 <http://afrisig.org/afrisig-20
>>>>>> 16/class-of-2016/
>>>>>> >     <http://afrisig.org/afrisig-2016/class-of-2016/>> -
>>>>>> >     >> Blogger <http://tungali.blogspot.com> - ICANN Fellow (Los
>>>>>> Angeles
>>>>>> >     >> <https://www.icann.org/news/announcement-2014-07-18-en
>>>>>> >     <https://www.icann.org/news/announcement-2014-07-18-en>> &
>>>>>> Marrakech
>>>>>> >     >>
>>>>>> >     <https://www.icann.org/resources/pages/marrakech55-attendee
>>>>>> s-2016-03-14-en
>>>>>> >     <https://www.icann.org/resources/pages/marrakech55-attendee
>>>>>> s-2016-03-14-en>>
>>>>>> >     >> ). AFRINIC Fellow (Mauritius
>>>>>> >     >>
>>>>>> >     <http://www.afrinic.net/en/library/news/1907-afrinic-25-fel
>>>>>> lowship-winners
>>>>>> >     <http://www.afrinic.net/en/library/news/1907-afrinic-25-fel
>>>>>> lowship-winners>>)*
>>>>>> >     >> - *IGFSA Member <http://www.igfsa.org/> - The
>>>>>> HuffingtonPost UK
>>>>>> >     >> <http://www.huffingtonpost.co.uk/liza-bel/drc_b_8958150.html
>>>>>> >     <http://www.huffingtonpost.co.uk/liza-bel/drc_b_8958150.html>>
>>>>>> >     >>
>>>>>> >     >> 2017-01-30 16:36 GMT+02:00 Norbert Bollow <nb at bollow.ch
>>>>>> >     <mailto:nb at bollow.ch>>:
>>>>>> >     >>
>>>>>> >     >>> Dear Arsène and all
>>>>>> >     >>>
>>>>>> >     >>> After a quick exchange with Mawaki, I'm happy to report
>>>>>> that Mawaki
>>>>>> >     >>> and I are willing to work out a joint proposal.
>>>>>> >     >>>
>>>>>> >     >>> In regard to who the letter should be addressed to, Mawaki
>>>>>> and I
>>>>>> >     >>> think that the statement should be addressed to ISOC
>>>>>> Cameroon. At
>>>>>> >     >>> the most, we can cc ISOC Global for the record. As made
>>>>>> clear in
>>>>>> >     >>> the communication excerpts forwarded by Arsène, ISOC Global
>>>>>> is
>>>>>> >     >>> already taking action and Chapter office holders are
>>>>>> volunteers who
>>>>>> >     >>> are not bound to the organization by a required line of
>>>>>> conduct as
>>>>>> >     >>> would be expected from staff of ISOC Global. Therefore we
>>>>>> cannot
>>>>>> >     >>> reasonably hold the global organization accountable for any
>>>>>> Chapter
>>>>>> >     >>> official's position and put them in the position to be
>>>>>> answerable
>>>>>> >     >>> about it -- which will appear as being the case if we
>>>>>> address a
>>>>>> >     >>> letter to ISOC Global, -- especially when their response is
>>>>>> already
>>>>>> >     >>> known.
>>>>>> >     >>>
>>>>>> >     >>> We think that the statement should be short and narrowly
>>>>>> focused,
>>>>>> >     >>> and articulated on the basis of some basic principles which
>>>>>> should
>>>>>> >     >>> be sufficiently self-evident to not need any in-depth
>>>>>> debate in IGC.
>>>>>> >     >>>
>>>>>> >     >>> You may expect us to post proposed text shortly.
>>>>>> >     >>>
>>>>>> >     >>> Greetings,
>>>>>> >     >>> Norbert
>>>>>> >     >>>
>>>>>> >     >>>
>>>>>> >     >>>
>>>>>> >     >>> On Mon, 30 Jan 2017 11:02:56 +0200
>>>>>> >     >>> Arsène Tungali <arsenebaguma at gmail.com
>>>>>> >     <mailto:arsenebaguma at gmail.com>> wrote:
>>>>>> >     >>>
>>>>>> >     >>>> Dear colleagues,
>>>>>> >     >>>>
>>>>>> >     >>>> Starting a new thread.
>>>>>> >     >>>>
>>>>>> >     >>>> I would like to thank everyone for raising your concern
>>>>>> about
>>>>>> >     >>>> what's going on in Cameroon which is just another country
>>>>>> added
>>>>>> >     >>>> to the list of African countries that have experienced
>>>>>> Internet
>>>>>> >     >>>> shutdown. I am from the DRC and we have experienced this
>>>>>> more
>>>>>> >     >>>> than 3 times and I am in the best position to highly
>>>>>> condem this
>>>>>> >     >>>> new form of oppression.
>>>>>> >     >>>>
>>>>>> >     >>>> I would also like to thank everyone who have expressed
>>>>>> their
>>>>>> >     >>>> concern over what Mr. Janvier had to say about the
>>>>>> shutdown in
>>>>>> >     >>>> his country, where he volunteerly serve as ISOC Cameroon
>>>>>> >     >>>> President. I join you all and condemn his position on
>>>>>> this, which
>>>>>> >     >>>> I can assure you, is his own position, not shared by his
>>>>>> other
>>>>>> >     >>>> colleagues at theISOC Chapter. Proof is he reacted to his
>>>>>> other
>>>>>> >     >>>> colleague who had a different view and who was making an
>>>>>> appeal,
>>>>>> >     >>>> asking for more coverage and action regarding what's going
>>>>>> on in
>>>>>> >     >>>> his country.
>>>>>> >     >>>>
>>>>>> >     >>>> For your information, ISOC has issued a statement
>>>>>> >     >>>>
>>>>>> >     <http://www.internetsociety.org/lets-keep-internet-everyone
>>>>>> ?utm_content=
>>>>>> >     <http://www.internetsociety.org/lets-keep-internet-everyone
>>>>>> ?utm_content=>
>>>>>> >     >>> bufferc442c&utm_medium=social&utm_source=twitter.com
>>>>>> >     <http://twitter.com>&utm_campaign=buffer>
>>>>>> >     >>>> condemning the shutdown in Cameroon as well as in other
>>>>>> countries.
>>>>>> >     >>>> This show that ISOC, as an organization, does not support
>>>>>> >     >>>> shutdowns but rather condem it firmly (as we all know).
>>>>>> >     >>>>
>>>>>> >     >>>> And, on a different mailing list, Mr. Nicolas Seidler
>>>>>> >     >>>>
>>>>>> >     <https://www.internetsociety.org/who-we-are/people/mr-nicol
>>>>>> as-seidler <https://www.internetsociety.o
>>>>>> rg/who-we-are/people/mr-nicolas-seidler>>,
>>>>>> >     >>>> who is Senior Policy Advisor for ISOC said the following:
>>>>>> >     >>>>
>>>>>> >     >>>> We felt it was time to formally express our long-standing
>>>>>> >     >>>> concerns on such measures, in the context of the Cameroon
>>>>>> >     >>>> situation and in view of others to come up in the future.
>>>>>> We are
>>>>>> >     >>>> also supporting and giving visibility to efforts from
>>>>>> Access and
>>>>>> >     >>>> members of the Keep it on campaign on our social media
>>>>>> channels.
>>>>>> >     >>>>
>>>>>> >     >>>> And he reacted on Mr. Janvier's stance and ONLY had this
>>>>>> to say:
>>>>>> >     >>>> Finally, we have an ISOC Chapter in Cameroon, as in many
>>>>>> other
>>>>>> >     >>>> parts of the worlds. While not all members of Chapters
>>>>>> share the
>>>>>> >     >>>> same view (a Chapter is made of local volunteers, not
>>>>>> staff),
>>>>>> >     >>>> there are some who want to act and we’ll make sure to
>>>>>> direct them
>>>>>> >     >>>> to Deji, Julie and others involved in the advocacy effort.
>>>>>> >     >>>>
>>>>>> >     >>>>> From the above, we understand that it was a personal
>>>>>> point of
>>>>>> >     >>>>> view from Mr.
>>>>>> >     >>>> Janvier which, as most of our colleagues said here, is
>>>>>> completely
>>>>>> >     >>>> wrong. I do personally believe that when a single person is
>>>>>> >     >>>> restricted access, this should be raised and condemned. In
>>>>>> >     >>>> Cameroon, we have 2 regions affected and this is terrible.
>>>>>> >     >>>>
>>>>>> >     >>>>
>>>>>> >     >>>>
>>>>>> >     >>>> *Now, coming back to the discussion on this list regarding
>>>>>> a
>>>>>> >     >>>> statement, I would like to suggest the following:*
>>>>>> >     >>>> 1. We can issue a statement adressed to ISOC Global (to
>>>>>> ISOC
>>>>>> >     >>>> Executive Director for example) condemning the public
>>>>>> stance
>>>>>> >     >>>> taken by ISOC Cameroon President. May I suggest *Norbert
>>>>>> and
>>>>>> >     >>>> Mawaki* to make an initial draft statement and share with
>>>>>> us
>>>>>> >     >>>> within the next 48 hours (if at all possible)?
>>>>>> >     >>>>
>>>>>> >     >>>> 2. We then issue a more general statement condemning
>>>>>> Internet
>>>>>> >     >>>> shutdown across the world as a civil society coalition
>>>>>> because I
>>>>>> >     >>>> am sure this is the new form of opression that Gov are
>>>>>> taking (as
>>>>>> >     >>>> said by Snowden). It will be very useful we use the
>>>>>> expertise we
>>>>>> >     >>>> have here to draft this and circulate it widely in all
>>>>>> networks
>>>>>> >     >>>> as a way to condemn the act but also to raise awareness
>>>>>> about the
>>>>>> >     >>>> issue (which is still unfamiliar with those who are not
>>>>>> actively
>>>>>> >     >>>> involved in these discussions or who have never
>>>>>> experienced any
>>>>>> >     >>>> shutdown). *For this, I would like to ask request few
>>>>>> volunteers
>>>>>> >     >>>> to make an initial draft statement as well?*
>>>>>> >     >>>>
>>>>>> >     >>>> Please do let me know what you think or if there is another
>>>>>> >     >>>> approach that we can all agree on and take action without
>>>>>> >     >>>> wassting more time. If you want to be part of the team of
>>>>>> 3 to
>>>>>> >     >>>> draft the second statement, please do let us know on this
>>>>>> list
>>>>>> >     >>>> within the next 48 hours.
>>>>>> >     >>>>
>>>>>> >     >>>> Very best,
>>>>>> >     >>>>
>>>>>> >     >>>> Arsene, IGC Co-cooordinator
>>>>>> >     >
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