[governance] IGF Planning Retreat
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Mon May 30 11:45:44 EDT 2016
I fully agree with Nnenna, it is absolutely desirable that for every time, we
take the opportunity to make our proposals before improvements. I am not for
the empty chair policy.
Best,
2016-05-30 17:21 GMT+02:00 Judith Hellerstein <judith at jhellerstein.com>:
> Hi
> I agree with Nnenna on boycotts
> Judith
>
> Sent from my iPhone
>
> On May 30, 2016, at 9:40 AM, Nnenna Nwakanma <nnenna75 at gmail.com> wrote:
>
> Been quiet here but here are my thoughts:
>
> 1. If the CSCG is refraining from nominations, I think we should
> inform DESA and also let them know the reasons
> 2. I think CS organisations are still free, in their individual rights
> to nominate people or go.. for their own reasons
> 3. Over all, I think CS folks who are attending should be AWARE of the
> gaps in procedure and bring those to the fore.
> 4. Personally, I dont believe in boycotts, I'd rather attend and walk
> out at a particular time.. than be totally abeent
>
> Nnenna
>
> On Fri, May 27, 2016 at 9:27 PM, Norbert Bollow <nb at bollow.ch> wrote:
>
>> On Fri, 27 May 2016 21:41:23 +0100
>> Chris Prince Udochukwu Njoku <udochukwu.njoku at unn.edu.ng> wrote:
>>
>> > To save precious time and energy, I think it's necessary to call for
>> > votes right here for and against responding to the present request
>> > for CS reps. 35% of 5 (if "coalition members" means the coalitions
>> > that make up CSCG at present) is 1.75. So we need objection from
>> > only 2 coalition members plus one neutral member (or 3 against?) to
>> > quit the process.
>>
>> Yes, that reference to "coalition members" refers to the (currently
>> five) networks that are members of CSCG, one of which is IGC.
>>
>> While I'm at this stage not able to promise anything beyond "we would
>> consider it", I think it very likely that if IGC were to take a
>> reasonable and strong position that this "IGF Planning Retreat" should
>> be boycotted unless some specific reasonable conditions are met, that
>> then JNC would be willing to support that position. In addition I think
>> it very likely that then at least one further CSCG member would at least
>> be neutral in relation to that position.
>>
>> Greetings,
>> Norbert
>> co-convenor, Just Net Coalition (JNC)
>>
>>
>> > > Izumi AIZU <iza at anr.org> wrote:
>> > > > Boycott may not sound constructive. But, I see good reason to push
>> > > > this. Sending CS reps, fine. BUT they should try to open the door
>> > > > first and foremost.
>> > > > Do that inside the room, open the door from inside. Otherwise,
>> > > > don't participate.
>> > >
>> > > Just a quick note on CSCG procedures:
>> > >
>> > > So far none of the CSCG member networks/coalitions have announced
>> > > that for reasons of the various concerns have been raised about the
>> > > proposed IGF planning retreat, they wish that no CSCG selection
>> > > process should be held. If this situation changes, that could
>> > > potentially lead to no CSCG selection / endorsement process taking
>> > > place. For details see point 2 in
>> > > http://internetgov-cs.org/procedures .
>> > >
>> > > There is so far nothing explicit in the CSCG procedures about
>> > > dealing with other modes of boycott or threats thereof. For
>> > > example, if it is desired that under certain circumstances (about
>> > > which we don't yet know whether they will come to pass) the
>> > > selected CS reps should refuse to participate, that IMO should if
>> > > possible be clearly agreed with the candidates before they get
>> > > nominated.
>> > >
>> > > The first step to any such stance would IMO be for e.g. IGC to take
>> > > a clear stance on what they would like CSCG's stance to be in that
>> > > regard.
>> > >
>> > > Greetings,
>> > > Norbert
>>
>>
>>
>>
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