[governance] [bestbits] Fwd: [IGFmaglist] IGF Retreat Participants
Ian Peter
ian.peter at ianpeter.com
Tue Jun 21 17:47:31 EDT 2016
If I may just touch on three things mentioned here:
Firstly, submissions to the IGF Retreat close June 30. Is anyone planning a submission? It’s one way to get things on the agenda. CSCG is doing a submission, but in line with its brief it will only talk about cleaning up the MAG nomination processes. ( we will make it public when it is finalised). But I would encourage other submissions, that is one way to get matters of concern on the table. I think the chance of a whole of civil society submission is remote with only a week to go, so groups perhaps should take the opportunity to submit individually.
Secondly, one of the things the CSCG submission will raise is gender balance. A point we will be making is that the continual habit of adjusting civil society participation to give the appearance of better gender balance overall does not solve the problem of sexual discrimination, and all stakeholders need to be required to look more carefully at gender balance within their own selections. As an example, looking at the overall balance among stakeholders for this meeting you get something like
Civil Society 5 – 1 male 4 female
Private Sector 5 – 3 male 2 female
Tech Community 5 – 4 male 1 female
Government and intergovernental 26 – 23 male, 3 female
Overall – 31 male, 10 female
(havent double checked my figures but they wont alter much from that) Clearly relying on civil society to provide better gender balance is doing nothing to solve the underlying problem.
And thirdly – just to clarify CSCG endorsements in this process. There was never any dispute about Lea Kaspar, Stuart Hamilton and Anriette Esterhuysen attending, as the direct nominees of CS MAG and CSCG respectively. However, after some protests from our side about the process, UNDESA did eventually ask us to endorse the nominations of Sala and Nnenna – neither of whom in the messy and duplicative process they adopted were among the names originally considered by CSCG. These names were suggested by UNDESA to improve overall geographic and gender balance. The CSCG Nomcom did decide to endorse both Sala and Nnenna in the circumstances. Both are of course excellent civil society representatives, and it should be clear that CSCG is supportive of all the civil society attendees at the retreat – if genuinely concerned about the messy way the process was conducted.
Ian Peter
From: Renata Aquino Ribeiro
Sent: Wednesday, June 22, 2016 3:54 AM
To: williams.deirdre at gmail.com
Cc: James Gannon ; Nnenna Nwakanma ; Lea Kaspar ; Matthew Shears ; Best Bits ; Internet Governance ; JNC Forum
Subject: Re: [governance] [bestbits] Fwd: [IGFmaglist] IGF Retreat Participants
Hi
(Apologies I have no idea if my msg gets out to JNC, pls fwd if appropriate)
I'm not sure if being loud or making noise has done the best it could so far.
I agree we should agree, as CS, on some topics but I also see the challenge on that, being CS (fortunately) a diverse group.
The topic of remote participation, for instance, has had some news in this last call, as Lea has expressed.
The twitter like updates remain.
The streaming - even if partial - seems to be an idea which has been dropped for the moment.
As for the balance in SG representation on the retreat, from the list one can easily see that CS numbers are low. Even more worrying, CSCG nominees number are even lower. That when compared, for instance, with the numbers of gov and intergov.
I was reminded that even though CS is participating on retreat, each one of its participants is there on their own personal capacity, not those of their organization.
So, while this makes it clearer fo the CS rep to express their thoughts, also takes us back to the original question: what, if any, does CS as a group have to do with the next 10 years of the IGF and how should it go about it?
Just a quick addition: I find twitter updates way more able to interpretation and polemic than streaming of a meeting, so I do not understand very well the choice there. What isn`t spoken has much more power than what is out there in the open.
Best,
Renata
On Tue, Jun 21, 2016 1:42 PM, Deirdre Williams williams.deirdre at gmail.com wrote:
Particularly in the cause of transparency and inclusion this discussion should be happening as widely as possibly among civil society. With apologies I have therefore copied to IGC and JNC. Perhaps others can spread the word further to as much of "global civil society" as possible, since all of us speaking together would have a VERY loud voice that would demand attention.
Best wishes
Deirdre
On 21 June 2016 at 12:27, James Gannon <james at cyberinvasion.net> wrote:
Just my 2c but I don’t think it should really be a negotiation, I know I may be naïve in certain aspects of the IGF working methods but open and transparent was always told to me to be a core concept. I don’t think we should be compromising those ideals at this critical juncture. Without that what do we really have to move forward with.
-jg
From: <bestbits-request at lists.bestbits.net> on behalf of Nnenna Nwakanma <nnenna75 at gmail.com>
Reply-To: Nnenna Nwakanma <nnenna75 at gmail.com>
Date: Tuesday 21 June 2016 at 17:20
To: Lea Kaspar <lea at gp-digital.org>
Cc: Matthew Shears <mshears at cdt.org>, Best Bits <bestbits at lists.bestbits.net>
Subject: Re: [bestbits] Fwd: [IGFmaglist] IGF Retreat Participants
Thanks, Lea
I think it is important that CS folks organisee CS remote participation. That is, if the IGF secretariat is okay with it.
Just thinking loud
Nnenna
On Tue, Jun 21, 2016 at 3:08 PM, Lea Kaspar <lea at gp-digital.org> wrote:
Hi all,
Just got off the MAG call. Remote participation for the Retreat still not sorted out. From what I understood, we can expect live tweeting under Chatham house rules, but that could be it. Others on the call can corroborate -
Best,
Lea
On Mon, Jun 20, 2016 at 4:45 PM, Matthew Shears <mshears at cdt.org> wrote:
Great point Ayden. I would hope that those who have been invited to participate will continue to be push hard for remote participation.
Matthew
On 6/20/2016 11:41 AM, Ayden Fabien Férdeline wrote:
Dear Lea,
Thank you for sharing this. I note that Nitin Desai will be participating in the Retreat remotely. I wonder if this mean that remote participation will be available to all to observe the dialogue exchanged?
Best wishes,
Ayden Férdeline
On Mon, Jun 20, 2016 at 4:31 PM, Lea Kaspar <lea at gp-digital.org> wrote:
Dear all,
In case of interest, the IGF Secretariat has just published the full list of participants to the July Retreat. See Chengetai's email below.
Best,
Lea Kaspar
Head of Programmes | GLOBAL PARTNERS DIGITAL
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gp-digital.org
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From: Chengetai Masango <cmasango at unog.ch>
Date: Mon, Jun 20, 2016 at 4:10 PM
Subject: [IGFmaglist] IGF Retreat Participants
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Dear All,
The list of IGF Retreat participants has been published at: http://www.intgovforum.org/cms/igf-retreat-participants-list
Best regards,
Chengetai
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