[governance] [bestbits] Remarks at UNESCO Closing Ceremony of "Connecting the Dots Conference"

Thu Mar 5 05:05:56 EST 2015

On Thursday 05 March 2015 03:01 PM, David Cake wrote:
>
> snip
> I’m curious about the membership and funding of plenty of groups in 
> CS, including some in JNC, though curiosity alone isn’t always 
> sufficient justification.

You should always ask - any organisation in public policy space must 
tell about its funding. Yours is a right to ask, and it the 
responsibility of every such organisation to tell. About JNC members, 
let me know which one are you curious about and I will find out about 
their funding and get back to you.

BTW, did you really entirely miss all the emails that especially Norbert 
has been posting seeking funding information about BestBits steering 
committee members, or are your curiosities just rather too partisan and 
one-sided.

parminder

> But FWIW, I suspect your implied 'threat’ there is based on the 
> assumption that everyone shares your opinions that all corporate 
> funding on civil society by corporations you dislike makes them 
> tainted - and I think that is simply a minority view based on a fairly 
> rigid ideological position. Sometimes corporations, including large US 
> internet ones, will ally with civil society when we have shared 
> concerns, sometimes corporations will support civil society because 
> they wish to support effective processes, sometimes corporate social 
> responsibility programs might even imply a degree of altruism.
>
> Cheers
> David
>
>> US money, British money, Swedish money ... let's follow the money for 
>> once. We will all learn a lot and some will have to stop pretending 
>> being true CS.
>>
>> Who pays for the musicians...
>>
>> JC
>>
>>
>> Le 5 mars 2015 à 09:35, David Cake a écrit :
>>
>>>
>>> On 5 Mar 2015, at 12:39 am, parminder <parminder at itforchange.net 
>>> <mailto:parminder at itforchange.net>> wrote:
>>>> .The fact that some  'civil society' persons sided with US and its 
>>>> allies (who as the key power-holders in the global IG realm have 
>>>> their obvious reasons) to do so indeed makes it a sad day for 
>>>> public interest advocacy.... parminder
>>>
>>> I really find some civil society persons siding with Russia and the 
>>> KSA on some issues to be a bigger long term concern for support of 
>>> democracy within civil society, but perhaps that is just me.
>>> Regards
>>>
>>> David
>>>>> M
>>>>> *From:*bestbits-request at lists.bestbits.net[mailto:bestbits-request at lists.bestbits.net]*On 
>>>>> Behalf Of*Jeremy Malcolm
>>>>> *Sent:*March 4, 2015 7:42 AM
>>>>> *To:*Jeremy Malcolm
>>>>> *Cc:*Civil Society Internet Governance Caucus - IGC; Nnenna 
>>>>> Nwakanma;<bestbits at lists.bestbits.net>
>>>>> *Subject:*Re: [bestbits] [governance] Remarks at UNESCO Closing 
>>>>> Ceremony of "Connecting the Dots Conference"
>>>>> On Mar 4, 2015, at 4:33 PM, Jeremy Malcolm <jmalcolm at eff.org 
>>>>> <mailto:jmalcolm at eff.org>> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>     You’re right, but you can nevertheless thank UNESCO for the
>>>>>     opportunity to participate on a multi-stakeholder basis and
>>>>>     acknowledge that the outcome document is a lot richer than it
>>>>>     would otherwise have been because of this.
>>>>>
>>>>> Also, please clarify that the Just Net Coalition does NOT 
>>>>> represent all of civil society.  This given that Richard Hill on 
>>>>> behalf of the coalition has just disrupted the meeting with a 
>>>>> formal objection to the document due to its omission to qualify 
>>>>> references to multi-stakeholderism with “democratic” (which he 
>>>>> incorrectly stated was not objected to during the last drafting 
>>>>> session), and its omission to include a reference to 
>>>>> the International Covenant on Economic, Social and Cultural 
>>>>> Rights.  Other than his objection, the document was adopted by the 
>>>>> meeting by consensus.
>>>>> -- 
>>>>> Jeremy Malcolm
>>>>> Senior Global Policy Analyst
>>>>> Electronic Frontier Foundation
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