[governance] The decentralization of the DNS system

[nathalie coupet]

Can you explain what dig + trace mean?  Nathalie 
      From: McTim <dogwallah at gmail.com>
 To: Suresh Ramasubramanian <suresh at hserus.net> 
Cc: "governance at lists.igcaucus.org" <governance at lists.igcaucus.org>; Jean-Christophe NOTHIAS I The Global Journal <jc.nothias at theglobaljournal.net>; willi uebelherr <willi.uebelherr at riseup.net> 
 Sent: Tuesday, June 23, 2015 9:10 AM
 Subject: Re: [governance] The decentralization of the DNS system
   
On Tue, Jun 23, 2015 at 7:02 AM, Suresh Ramasubramanian
<suresh at hserus.net> wrote:
> What you call a fairyland is the reality that you happen to be using to even
> be able to send this email.

Indeed, I see no evidence of an alt-root in this dig + trace:



; <<>> DiG 9.3.2 <<>> theglobaljournal.net MX +trace
;; global options:  printcmd
.                      10431  IN      NS      c.root-servers.net.
.                      10431  IN      NS      a.root-servers.net.
.                      10431  IN      NS      h.root-servers.net.
.                      10431  IN      NS      k.root-servers.net.
.                      10431  IN      NS      g.root-servers.net.
.                      10431  IN      NS      d.root-servers.net.
.                      10431  IN      NS      f.root-servers.net.
.                      10431  IN      NS      j.root-servers.net.
.                      10431  IN      NS      m.root-servers.net.
.                      10431  IN      NS      e.root-servers.net.
.                      10431  IN      NS      b.root-servers.net.
.                      10431  IN      NS      l.root-servers.net.
.                      10431  IN      NS      i.root-servers.net.
;; Received 228 bytes from 8.8.8.8#53(8.8.8.8) in 45 ms

net.                    172800  IN      NS      h.gtld-servers.net.
net.                    172800  IN      NS      e.gtld-servers.net.
net.                    172800  IN      NS      m.gtld-servers.net.
net.                    172800  IN      NS      c.gtld-servers.net.
net.                    172800  IN      NS      k.gtld-servers.net.
net.                    172800  IN      NS      g.gtld-servers.net.
net.                    172800  IN      NS      j.gtld-servers.net.
net.                    172800  IN      NS      b.gtld-servers.net.
net.                    172800  IN      NS      d.gtld-servers.net.
net.                    172800  IN      NS      f.gtld-servers.net.
net.                    172800  IN      NS      i.gtld-servers.net.
net.                    172800  IN      NS      l.gtld-servers.net.
net.                    172800  IN      NS      a.gtld-servers.net.
;; Received 507 bytes from 192.33.4.12#53(c.root-servers.net) in 46 ms

theglobaljournal.net.  172800  IN      NS      a.dns.gandi.net.
theglobaljournal.net.  172800  IN      NS      b.dns.gandi.net.
theglobaljournal.net.  172800  IN      NS      c.dns.gandi.net.
;; Received 228 bytes from 192.54.112.30#53(h.gtld-servers.net) in 122 ms

theglobaljournal.net.  600    IN      MX      10 spool.mail.gandi.net.
theglobaljournal.net.  600    IN      MX      50 fb.mail.gandi.net.
theglobaljournal.net.  10800  IN      NS      c.dns.gandi.net.
theglobaljournal.net.  10800  IN      NS      b.dns.gandi.net.
theglobaljournal.net.  10800  IN      NS      a.dns.gandi.net.
;; Received 142 bytes from 173.246.98.1#53(a.dns.gandi.net) in 39 ms


>
> That chinese proposal is not a technical one - it is a smokescreen for a
> political move.

Censorship seems to be the motivation.



 Any civil society that actually winds up supporting it
> finds itself endorsing a multilateral model where civil society, industry or
> other non government stakeholders are shut off from decision making.
>
> If that is your intent, then please do say so in slightly clearer terms than
> you have so far.


If you are looking for a chinese proposal to scale the root, the one
described here seems to be less offensive to CS sensibilities:

http://www.circleid.com/posts/20141107_secure_unowned_hierarchical_anycast_root_name_service_and_apologia/



-- 
Cheers,

McTim
"A name indicates what we seek. An address indicates where it is. A
route indicates how we get there."  Jon Postel


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