[governance] [bestbits] JNC's comments on ICANN oversight (non) transition

[Mueller, Milton L]

Staged transition. Ha. That is an attempt by numbers and protocols to slip out of the party before the names host gets roaring drunk and starts breaking things. 
Speaking metaphorically, of course. Speaking more literally, if the numbers folk are getting worried that the names transition will never happen, it makes sense for them to offer a two step approach that frees numbers and protocols from U.S. oversight and let names languish. From  a names point of view, howerver, it makes sense to hold numbers and protocols "hostage" to ensure that the whole transition occurs. 

> -----Original Message-----
> 
> The simple, workable alternative is that of separating the functions.
> Having this kind of separation is what I see as the natural outcome of what
> community leaders like Paul Wilson have called for:
> 
> http://ianacg.org/pipermail/internal-cg_ianacg.org/2015-June/000693.html
> 
> Further, the ICG has stated that some IANA functions (tzdata, .int), etc.,
> aren't part of the transition since they aren't linked to the NTIA contract, and
> so is not part of their mandate.  So what will happen to those?  All in all, this is
> an incredibly confused exercise, and the ICG has done a poor job in bringing
> clarity to it.
> 
> Regards,
> Pranesh
> 
> Suresh Ramasubramanian <suresh at hserus.net> [2015-08-28 13:56:22
> +0530]:
> > Given a surprising lack of consensus on the substantials of several alternate
> proposals - is there one, especially which maintains the technical structure
> besides political considerations?
> >
> > One concrete proposal that civil society AND the technical community can
> rally behind would be useful if we are not to damn the status quo and then
> not propose any usable alternate proposal.
> >
> > So far both proposals I reviewed here - while quite well drafted - are still
> focused on the political considerations, and quite bare of technical details.
> >
> >
> >> On 28-Aug-2015, at 1:50 PM, Pranesh Prakash <pranesh at cis-india.org>
> wrote:
> >>
> >> Dear Parminder,
> >> Thank you very much for sending these.  Other than one or two small
> difference, I find myself almost fully in agreement.
> >>
> >> The ICG report, which supports the PTI proposal by the names
> community, is utterly status quoist, and doesn't address the questions of
> jurisdiction at all.
> >>
> >> In fact, it doesn't even call out the attempt by ICANN to ensure that PTI
> will be US-based (a requirement listed in P1. Annex S).
> >>
> >> Regards,
> >> Pranesh
> >>
> >> parminder <parminder at itforchange.net> [2015-08-18 18:38:31 +0530]:
> >>> Just Net Coalition has submitted its comments to the process that is
> >>> coming up with proposals for what was supposed to be the transition
> >>> of ICANN's oversight from the US to a globally legitimate structure,
> >>> but the - now more or less final - proposals on the table do nothing
> >>> of the sort, and merely serve to cement the status quo.
> >>>
> >>> We have submitted our comments in two parts
> >>>
> >>> A overall political commentary can be found at
> >>>
> >>> https://comments.ianacg.org/pdf/submission/submission19.pdf
> >>>
> >>> A more technical response to finer issues and processes of the
> >>> process is at
> >>>
> >>> https://comments.ianacg.org/pdf/submission/submission18.pdf
> >>>
> >>> In sum, we have firmly rejected both, the legitimacy of the process
> >>> and the arbitrary manner in which it was conducted, and its result
> >>> in the form of the final proposals on the table.
> >>>
> >>> parminder
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
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> >> --
> >> Pranesh Prakash
> >> Policy Director, Centre for Internet and Society http://cis-india.org
> >> | tel:+91 80 40926283 sip:pranesh at ostel.co |
> >> xmpp:pranesh at cis-india.org https://twitter.com/pranesh_prakash
> >>
> >
> 
> --
> Pranesh Prakash
> Policy Director, Centre for Internet and Society http://cis-india.org | tel:+91
> 80 40926283 sip:pranesh at ostel.co | xmpp:pranesh at cis-india.org
> https://twitter.com/pranesh_prakash

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