[governance] IANA Transition - Lack of Openess

[ymshana2003]

+1 to Guru's opinion.

We can not have  'club' which operates in top- down approach. ..working in Box?

Time for major changes or to let the Private Sector take over. ..?

Kind regards.  Yassin


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From: Suresh Ramasubramanian <suresh at hserus.net> 
Date:21/09/2014  23:53  (GMT+02:00) 
To: governance at lists.igcaucus.org,Guru Acharya <gurcharya at gmail.com> 
Subject: Re: [governance] IANA Transition - Lack of Openess 

Those lists are open. As are the operational communities where consensus driven decision making can be generated. If you have technically feasible alternate proposals, submit them there.

--srs (iPad)

On 22-Sep-2014, at 00:41, Guru Acharya <gurcharya at gmail.com> wrote:

The ICG, in the RFP, has mandated that "proposals" are to come only from the three operational communities. The ICG has also proposed that any "comments" sent to the ICG by individuals (not belonging to any of the three communities) will be forwarded to the operational communities for consideration. The rationale for excluding individuals from sending proposals is that the processes initiated by the three operational communities will be inclusive and open to participation by all. The opposition to this by ALAC was rejected outright by the remaining members of the ICG in the 3rd conference call.

Unfortunately, unfolding events have demonstrated that the rationale offered by the ICG that the processes initiated by the three operational communities will be inclusive was incorrect and misleading.

1) The process initiated by the "names" community in the form of the Cross Community Working Group creates three classes of people - the members, the observers and the nobodys. The number of members and observers is limited to a minuscule and privileged few while the majority fall in the category of nobodys - excluded from the process entirely. Its hard to appreciate how this process is inclusive or bottoms-up.
https://community.icann.org/display/gnsocwgdtstwrdshp/Members+and+Observers

2) The established incumbent members of the "protocols" community have released a draft version of the proposal (without any translations) even before the release of the final RFP. The proposal mostly suggests that no changes are required. While one might argue that any proposal emerging on a mailing list is bottoms-up, to me the medium of exchange does not change the fact that the draft was released by the established incumbent leaders (top-down) merely for suggestions by the remaining members without any clue how that initial draft came about. Notably their first conference call on the subject is also at a time convenient to the participants from the United States.
http://www.ietf.org/mail-archive/web/ianaplan/current/msg00089.html
http://www.ietf.org/mail-archive/web/ianaplan/current/msg00379.html

3) The secretariat of the "numbers" community has unilaterally released draft principles inviting comments at a conference in a remote location inaccessible to the general public. This again appears to be a top-down approach wherein the proposal appears to demonstrate that the leaders have a set of predisposed expectations which we can merely comment on. Any proposal by us will obviously not shine in front of the majorly publicized blog of the secretariat.
blog.apnic.net/2014/09/08/iana-session-apnic-38-a-discussion-proposal/#iana

The RFP clearly states that the processes initiated by the three communities must be inclusive and open. This was the rationale for excluding individuals from sending proposals in response to the RFP. This condition has clearly been vitiated  by the operational communities leaving the majority of us to question the legitimacy of any proposal that emerges.

I feel that the ICG needs to intervene and urgently correct this anomaly before it becomes too late.

Guru Acharya
Independent Policy Analyst
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