[bestbits] [governance] Call for making the IGF permanent
Jeanette Hofmann
jeanette at wzb.eu
Thu Sep 4 02:26:16 EDT 2014
Nigel, this captures my motivation very well, thank you!
jeanette
Am 03.09.14 22:31, schrieb Nigel Hickson:
> Good evening
>
> I think (but am often wrong) we are at one of those pivotal moments; the
> strength of the IGF is the diverse bodies it throws together. A call
> for an open-ended mandate for IGF is not guaranteed to find traction at
> the UNGA but we would kick ourselves had we not tried.
>
> Best
>
> Nigel
>
>
> From: Stephanie Perrin <stephanie.perrin at mail.utoronto.ca
> <mailto:stephanie.perrin at mail.utoronto.ca>>
> Reply-To: Stephanie Perrin <stephanie.perrin at mail.utoronto.ca
> <mailto:stephanie.perrin at mail.utoronto.ca>>
> Date: Wednesday, September 3, 2014 11:15 PM
> To: "governance at lists.igcaucus.org
> <mailto:governance at lists.igcaucus.org>" <governance at lists.igcaucus.org
> <mailto:governance at lists.igcaucus.org>>, Anja Kovacs
> <anja at internetdemocracy.in <mailto:anja at internetdemocracy.in>>, Lee W
> McKnight <lmcknigh at syr.edu <mailto:lmcknigh at syr.edu>>
> Cc: Milton L Mueller <mueller at syr.edu <mailto:mueller at syr.edu>>, George
> Sadowsky <george.sadowsky at gmail.com <mailto:george.sadowsky at gmail.com>>,
> Pranesh Prakash <pranesh at cis-india.org <mailto:pranesh at cis-india.org>>,
> Jeanette Hofmann <jeanette at wzb.eu <mailto:jeanette at wzb.eu>>, Best Bits
> <bestbits at lists.bestbits.net <mailto:bestbits at lists.bestbits.net>>
> Subject: Re: [bestbits] [governance] Call for making the IGF permanent
>
> I think this is helpful, and I am sorry that I missed the BestBits
> meeting and all the discussion. My understanding (and I cc Jeanette who
> was there and who was taking on the task for this letter, was that
> discussion of evolution and strengthening was to go in the other
> letter....because it was harder to get agreement on that. WE are
> getting countries to sign on to extension of the mandate, which is quite
> difficult. We cannot start throwing in qualitative material that
> requires negotiation.
> Is this not why we have three letter going?
> Thanks
> Stephanie
> On 2014-09-03, 13:43, Anja Kovacs wrote:
>> Thanks, Lee. That was in fact also what was suggested at the Best Bits
>> meeting.
>>
>> The unanimous support was not merely for establishing the IGF as a
>> permanent or long-term body, but for establishing it as a permanent or
>> long-term body while reforming and strengthening it, and that is the
>> language that the Best Bits draft statement also uses at the moment
>> (the cross-stakeholder statement unfortunately does not). Transparency
>> and accountability for me are an integral part of what needs to be
>> strengthened, and I'm happy for that to be spelled out. I have made a
>> suggestion to that effect on the pad where the BB statement is being
>> drafted.
>>
>> I wouldn't normally cross-post a message like this (on a BB statement)
>> to the IGC list, but I thought it is important that since this
>> conversation has now spread out over both lists, people who are only
>> part of the IGC should have the correct background information as well.
>>
>> Thanks and best,
>> Anja
>>
>>
>> On 3 September 2014 22:27, Lee W McKnight <lmcknigh at syr.edu
>> <mailto:lmcknigh at syr.edu>> wrote:
>>
>> My cent:
>>
>> Split the difference.
>>
>> Everyone agrees/calls for a ten year planning horizon for UN
>> participation in IGF;
>>
>> coupled with a call for greater multistakeholder participation in
>> the -annual - review process for IGF accountability and
>> transparency reasons.
>>
>> Everyone's a winner.
>>
>> Lee
>>
>>
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>> Cc: Pranesh Prakash; Jeanette Hofmann; Best Bits
>> Subject: Re: [governance] [bestbits] Call for making the IGF permanent
>>
>> I agree with Prakesh also.
>>
>> George
>>
>>
>> On Sep 3, 2014, at 10:04 AM, Milton L Mueller <mueller at syr.edu
>> <mailto:mueller at syr.edu>> wrote:
>>
>> >
>> >
>> >> -----Original Message-----
>> >> I will have to be the one to provide that "almost" to that unanimity.
>> >> Speaking for myself, I do not support making the IGF a permanent body.
>> >>
>> >> The IGF has to be relevant and has to deliver results, and we should push for
>> >> accountability of the IGF. Making it permanent isn't really going to help
>> >> accountability of the IGF (just as having the IANA contract be renewable has
>> >> helped keep ICANN more accountable so far, though the analogy is not perfect).
>> >> I would support making the evaluation process (for renewal of the IGF's term)
>> >> more participative and transparent and, yes, more "multistakeholder".
>> >
>> > Agree with Pranash
>> > --MM
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