[governance] PP: India wants to abolish BGP and introduce national routing and IP management

[JFC Morfin]

At 10:12 28/10/2014, McTim wrote:

>I will be happy to declare a victory if I can convince you that thinking of
>IP resource distribution in Westphalian terms isn't useful.

dear Guru and McTim,

I would be happy to declare peace the day [inapropriate] dogmatisms 
are removed from where they do not belong. Please stop thinking in 
"XIXth reviewing XVIIth" paradigms. The (uncompleted) XXIth paradigm 
has been explicited by IEEE, IAB, IETF, ISOC, W3C in RFC 6852 and the 
way to administratively address it by IETF, ITU, ICANN and W3C in RFC 2691.

What is archaic is the IPv6 and IDNS management entrusted to 
governance structures designed by the NTIA to manage IPv4 and the 
US-DNS and the adoration of the gods of administrative and technical 
status-quoes.

Did any of you heard about LISP, NDN, SDN, ISO layer six, IEN 48 
objective, etc?

jfc


>--
>Cheers,
>
>McTim
>
>
>On Tue, Oct 28, 2014 at 1:25 AM, Guru Acharya <gurcharya at gmail.com> wrote:
> >> > [Guru]: I understand that current allocation is as per "need" (in
> >> > contrast
> >> > to equity between sub-regions). However, the allocation is also
> >> > "first-come-first-serve" in addition to "need". Put together, the
> >> > resource
> >> > is allocated to whoever establishes "need on a first-come-first-serve"
> >> > basis. As a result, India's late adoption of the Internet exposes it to
> >> > an
> >> > almost empty resource pool of IPv4 addresses.
> >>
> >> It wasn't almost empty when India first got online.  Everyone is in
> >> the same boat in
> >> terms of constrained resources.  There is no "inequity" when everyone
> >> suffers equally.  See below:
> >>
> >
> > Let me get this right. You are saying that India is not a late entrant
> > because when the first person from India got an internet connection there
> > were a lot of IP addresses available. Therefore, in your head, late entrant
> > has nothing to do with the fact that less than 20% of India has access to
> > Internet and that India is adding almost a million internet connections a
> > month. And you say our situation is "equitable" to Japan with 95% broadband
> > penetration and a major chuck of the IPv4 pool? Right. Ok. Agreed. There is
> > no inequity. You win.
> >
>
>
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