[governance] People with disabilities

Mon Nov 17 13:32:11 EST 2014

Thanks Deirdre for the explanation,

However, no matter what other opinion, we must be conscious of the moment
and relate it to the reality of things.

I am convinced that Arsene "alert" is not unfounded but a note for careful
decision making, so no threat meant as far as I can deduce.

Therefore, I would like to submit that there is nothing, absolutely nothing
wrong in us advocating inclusion of disability colleagues in the MAG in
real sense of it, after all we say its a multi-stakeholder, yet the
question here remain whether we have made the multi-stakeholderism a
reality or are we still guessing with semantics?

Posterity will be on our side for seeing enough reasons to accommodate this
request, after all, for instance, those of us who have worked closely with
Judy Okite, know her capability when it comes to work despite all odds. I
am sure those Ginger Prague mentioned earlier have been as hardworking as
Judy among our pears for them to merit such mentions and recognition.

So, our decision must reflect the reality of things with purpose driven. If
there are other request for inclusion as feared by Arsene, then when we get
to the bridge, let us cross it, but for now. This is proposal is imperative.

Goodevening from Lagos
Remmy

On Mon, Nov 17, 2014 at 6:49 PM, Deirdre Williams <
williams.deirdre at gmail.com> wrote:

> Bad choice of words perhaps :-(
> The concerns I have heard seem to focus on the possibility that if one
> group is given special status as regards representation then several other
> groups may ask for the same facility. If you look back in this thread
> Arsene on 14th was the first person to express this concern.
> I think I used "dangerous" (and please note the "...") because the
> stability of the MAG is very important. Therefore it is essential that the
> justification for the request should be quite clear and offer no threat to
> that stability.
>
> On 17 November 2014 13:32, Remmy Nweke <remmyn at gmail.com> wrote:
>
>> Dear Deirdre,
>> So far your submissions have been engaging and interesting, but I did not
>> understand the aspect of "dangerous" precedent.
>>
>> Is it that our support for recognition of persons with disabilities in
>> the MAG is a dangerous step or that it would amount to that in the future?
>> If yes, why?
>>
>> We must have at the back of our mind that issues must be treated on
>> merit, of course, I think this subject herein is merited.
>>
>> However, I would appreciate more light/explanation before I can ask
>> further questions.
>> Thanks
>> Remmy
>>
>> On Mon, Nov 17, 2014 at 6:09 PM, Deirdre Williams <
>> williams.deirdre at gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>>> My thought is "go for it".
>>> However I think it will be necessary to establish that "people with
>>> disabilities" are a stakeholder group, rather than an issue. Ginger and I
>>> spent an hour discussing that last night without reaching any resolution.
>>> This conversation began because of Lorena's suggestion to institutionalise
>>> the inclusion of someone representative of "the youth" as happened
>>> fortuitously this year with the selection of Bianca for the MAG. There are
>>> other interests which might also feel the desirability of being given an
>>> "own representative". Can we present a strong enough argument to persuade
>>> the MAG in its wisdom to support the creation of a somewhat "dangerous"
>>> precedent?
>>>
>>> On 17 November 2014 11:07, Judy Okite <judyokite at gmail.com> wrote:
>>>
>>>> Thank you All,
>>>>
>>>> for your contributions and support, I highly appreciate it!
>>>>
>>>> Indeed to have the persons with disabilities voices and concerns raised
>>>> in these forums is important,  but the utmost importance is to have them
>>>> involved, be part of the process, be part of the team.
>>>>
>>>> Could we have this in signatures and forward it to the secretariat to
>>>> have this discussed as part of AOB in the December meeting?
>>>>
>>>> De, whats your thought?
>>>>
>>>> Kind Regards,
>>>>
>>>> *'Chance Favors the prepared mind'* - Louis Pasteur
>>>>
>>>> On Mon, Nov 17, 2014 at 3:44 PM, Remmy Nweke <remmyn at gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> Let me add my voice to Deidre's narration.
>>>>> Yes we often forget those with disabilities and I think now we are
>>>>> reminded of it, thus imperative we all support the call for inclusion. May
>>>>> be pass that as a resolution to make or have a rep from them at part of MAG
>>>>> process.
>>>>> Thus should also apply to member nations too that way we will no
>>>>> longer forget.
>>>>> Nice day all.
>>>>> Remmy Nweke
>>>>> @ITRealms
>>>>> A member of DigitalSENSE
>>>>>
>>>>> Sent from my Windows Phone
>>>>> ------------------------------
>>>>> From: Deirdre Williams <williams.deirdre at gmail.com>
>>>>> Sent: 14/11/2014 15:01
>>>>> To: Internet Governance <governance at lists.igcaucus.org>
>>>>> Subject: [governance] People with disabilities
>>>>>
>>>>> Let me add to Lorena's suggestion of a youth category, (made on the
>>>>> Bestbits list this morning) the need to have a constant voice for people
>>>>> with disabilities. Judy Okite has provided this for the last few years, but
>>>>> she has finished her term of appointment. She made this suggestion herself
>>>>> at the last MAG meeting in Istanbul. Since one billion people around the
>>>>> world suffer from some disability, and the Internet can offer considerable
>>>>> relief for them, they are the holders of a very significant "stake".
>>>>> Sadly it is easy to forget if one does not suffer from a disability
>>>>> oneself, which is why it is so important to have a dedicated voice for
>>>>> these stakeholders in all such groups.
>>>>> Deirdre
>>>>>
>>>>> --
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>>>>> William Arthur Lewis, Nobel Prize Economics, 1979
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>>
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