Wolfgang great question and observation.
This is time for innovation. We might need a "search engine clearing house"
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On 15 May 2014 10:56, "Kleinwächter, Wolfgang" <
wolfgang.kleinwaechter at medienkomm.uni-halle.de> wrote:
>
>
>
> Hi,
>
> I have one question: My understanding of the ruling is that an individual
> has to make a request to a search engine to remove the data/links to the
> orginal data to the operator of a search engine, in this case Google.
>
> But what about the other search engines: Yandex, Bing, Baidu etc. If there
> are 100 search engines, does she/he has to make 100 requests?
>
> Wolfgang
>
>
>
>
>
> . IDies she/he have t. -----Ursprüngliche Nachricht-----
> Von: governance-request at lists.igcaucus.org im Auftrag von Lorena
> Jaume-Palasi
> Gesendet: Do 15.05.2014 02:50
> An: governance at lists.igcaucus.org; Marie GEORGES
> Cc: Adam Peake; Olivier MJ Crepin-Leblond
> Betreff: Re: [governance] Information of general interest: arret cour
> européenne Luxembourg, Spanish DPA against Google
>
> the court's opinion is pretty clear: it states that art. 7 & 8 (privacy and
> data protection) are higher ranked than art. 11 (freedom of expression). In
> democracies no right is absolute: they all have to be balanced as peers
> -and not within a hierachy. So yes, Oliver is right and has read it pretty
> much in deep (as many other law-experts on data protection have done:
> http://mashable.com/2014/05/13/right-to-be-forgotten-europe-google/ or
> http://europeanlawblog.eu/?p=2351 or
>
> http://www.cr-online.de/blog/2014/05/14/can-a-search-engine-be-private-by-default/and
> many more.
> This is heavy undemocratic stuff, once we begin to rank some human rights
> higher than others...
> Kind regards,
> Lorena
>
>
> 2014-05-14 23:16 GMT+02:00 Marie GEORGES <marie.georges at noos.fr>:
>
> > Yes Adam..quite interesting Viktor Mayer-Schönberger 's article
> >
> > The judgement is not at all in favor of censorship at all !!!! Olivier,
> > read it in deep, balance of interest is made between privacy and Interest
> > of people to know...
> >
> > In Europe( large meaning) if another end is looked for it will be at
> the
> > ECtHR...
> >
> > Best regards
> > Marie
> >
> > Le 14 mai 2014 à 12:55, Adam Peake a écrit :
> >
> > >
> > > On May 14, 2014, at 4:58 PM, Olivier MJ Crepin-Leblond wrote:
> > >
> > >> This ruling spells the start of mass censorship in Europe.
> > >>
> > >> It basically means anyone could ask Google to take down a link on the
> > >> premise that the information is obsolete. I am sure this is very
> welcome
> > >> to crooks, fraudsters and other criminals. Well done!
> > >>
> > >
> > > writing in the UK Guardian, Viktor Mayer-Schönberger suggests otherwise
> > -- this is not the end
> > >
> > > <
> >
> http://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2014/may/13/omission-of-search-results-no-right-to-be-forgotten
> > >
> > >
> > > Adam
> > >
> > >
> > >> Olivier
> > >>
> > >> On 13/05/2014 13:23, Marie GEORGES wrote:
> > >>> Bonjour,
> > >>> Hi
> > >>>
> > >>> Cet arrêt est très important,
> > >>> This judgement is very important
> > >>>
> > >>> Et en première page du New York Times
> > >>> And In first page of the New York Times
> > >>>
> > >>>
> >
> http://www.nytimes.com/2014/05/14/technology/google-should-erase-web-links-to-some-personal-data-europes-highest-court-says.html?hp
> > >>>
> > >>> Texte complet de l'arrêt , ci attaché, en français et en anglais
> > >>> Full judgement here attached in french and in english
> > >>>
> > >>> Il reconnait Google search comme un responsable de traitement au sens
> > de la directive de 1995 sur la protection des données personnelles qui
> donc
> > est applicable
> > >>> It recognizes Google (search) as controller in the meaning of
> > Directive of 95 on data protection,that is therefore completely
> applicable
> > to the search engine
> > >>>
> > >>> Google doit retirer les informations sur une personne qui lui porte
> > préjudice ( y inclus sur base de la liberté d'information/vie privée)
> lors
> > de la réponse à qu'une requête sur le nom de cette personne alors que
> > l'information sur le site d'origine est légale
> > >>> Google have to take of the referenced documents related to a
> > person when that information, lawful on the original web site, appears
> in
> > the answers to a query on her/his name, where such information causes
> > undue private life on the basis of the balance of interest criteria
> > (including related to freedom of information versus privacy....)
> > >>>
> > >>> Ce résumé est trop succinct...donc arrêt à lire entièrement..
> > >>> This resumé is too short, so text to be fully taken in
> > consideration
> > >>> Bravo aux collègues espagnols
> > >>> Great our spanish colleagues
> > >>>
> > >>> Bonne journée,
> > >>> Have a nice day,
> > >>>
> > >>> Marie GEORGES
> > >>
> > >>
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