[governance] Removal

"Kleinwächter, Wolfgang" wolfgang.kleinwaechter at medienkomm.uni-halle.de
Thu May 15 03:56:41 EDT 2014 



Hi,

I have one question: My understanding of the ruling is that an individual has to make a request to a search engine to remove the data/links to the orginal data to the operator of a search engine, in this case Google. 

But what about the other search engines: Yandex, Bing, Baidu etc. If there are 100 search engines, does she/he has to make 100 requests?

Wolfgang


 


. IDies she/he have t.  -----Ursprüngliche Nachricht-----
Von: governance-request at lists.igcaucus.org im Auftrag von Lorena Jaume-Palasi
Gesendet: Do 15.05.2014 02:50
An: governance at lists.igcaucus.org; Marie GEORGES
Cc: Adam Peake; Olivier MJ Crepin-Leblond
Betreff: Re: [governance] Information of general interest: arret cour européenne Luxembourg, Spanish DPA against Google
 
the court's opinion is pretty clear: it states that art. 7 & 8 (privacy and
data protection) are higher ranked than art. 11 (freedom of expression). In
democracies no right is absolute: they all have to be balanced as peers
-and not within a hierachy. So yes, Oliver is right and has read it pretty
much in deep (as many other law-experts on data protection have done:
http://mashable.com/2014/05/13/right-to-be-forgotten-europe-google/ or
http://europeanlawblog.eu/?p=2351  or
http://www.cr-online.de/blog/2014/05/14/can-a-search-engine-be-private-by-default/and
many more.
This is heavy undemocratic stuff, once we begin to rank some human rights
higher than others...
Kind regards,
Lorena


2014-05-14 23:16 GMT+02:00 Marie GEORGES <marie.georges at noos.fr>:

> Yes Adam..quite interesting Viktor Mayer-Schönberger 's article
>
> The judgement is not at all in favor of censorship at all !!!!  Olivier,
> read it in deep, balance of interest is made between privacy and Interest
> of people to know...
>
> In Europe( large meaning) if another  end is looked for  it will be at the
> ECtHR...
>
> Best regards
> Marie
>
> Le 14 mai 2014 à 12:55, Adam Peake a écrit :
>
> >
> > On May 14, 2014, at 4:58 PM, Olivier MJ Crepin-Leblond wrote:
> >
> >> This ruling spells the start of mass censorship in Europe.
> >>
> >> It basically means anyone could ask Google to take down a link on the
> >> premise that the information is obsolete. I am sure this is very welcome
> >> to crooks, fraudsters and other criminals. Well done!
> >>
> >
> > writing in the UK Guardian, Viktor Mayer-Schönberger suggests otherwise
> -- this is not the end
> >
> > <
> http://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2014/may/13/omission-of-search-results-no-right-to-be-forgotten
> >
> >
> > Adam
> >
> >
> >> Olivier
> >>
> >> On 13/05/2014 13:23, Marie GEORGES wrote:
> >>> Bonjour,
> >>>     Hi
> >>>
> >>> Cet arrêt est très important,
> >>>     This judgement is very important
> >>>
> >>> Et en  première page du New York Times
> >>>      And In first page of the New York Times
> >>>
> >>>
> http://www.nytimes.com/2014/05/14/technology/google-should-erase-web-links-to-some-personal-data-europes-highest-court-says.html?hp
> >>>
> >>> Texte complet de l'arrêt , ci attaché, en français et en anglais
> >>>     Full judgement here attached in french and in english
> >>>
> >>> Il reconnait Google search comme un responsable de traitement au sens
> de la directive de 1995 sur la protection des données personnelles qui donc
> est applicable
> >>>     It recognizes Google (search) as controller in the meaning of
> Directive of 95 on data protection,that is therefore completely applicable
> to the search engine
> >>>
> >>> Google  doit retirer les informations sur une personne qui lui porte
> préjudice ( y inclus sur base de la liberté d'information/vie privée) lors
> de la réponse à qu'une requête sur le nom de cette personne alors que
> l'information sur le site d'origine est légale
> >>>     Google have to take of  the referenced documents related to a
> person when  that information, lawful on the original web site, appears in
> the answers to a query on  her/his name, where such information causes
> undue private life on the basis of the  balance of interest criteria
> (including related to freedom of information versus privacy....)
> >>>
> >>> Ce résumé est trop succinct...donc arrêt à lire entièrement..
> >>>     This resumé is too short, so text to be  fully taken in
> consideration
> >>> Bravo aux collègues espagnols
> >>>     Great our spanish colleagues
> >>>
> >>> Bonne journée,
> >>>     Have a nice day,
> >>>
> >>> Marie GEORGES
> >>
> >>
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