[bestbits] Re: [governance] IGC press release in response to the NTIA announcement of March 14

[Sivasubramanian M]

Dear Mawaki


On Mon, Mar 17, 2014 at 12:56 AM, Mawaki Chango <kichango at gmail.com> wrote:

>  Hello,
>
>
> On Sun, Mar 16, 2014 at 5:37 PM, Sivasubramanian M <isolatedn at gmail.com>wrote:
>
>> Hello
>>
>> IGC supports the multistakeholder policymaking model to the extent that
>>> it does not contradict the ideals of democracy, including due consideration
>>> to the rights of minorities (in the context of Internet policy)
>>
>>
>> "to the extent that Mutli-stakeholder model
>> ​
>> contradict the ideals of democracy"?
>> ​​
>> ​​
>> ​​
>> Multi-stakeholder model is expanded democracy, the next step in the
>> further evolution of democracy. Is there room for this model to contradict
>> the ideals of democracy???
>>
>
> Sorry, you completely misread this... Or you are objecting to yourself
> since you're the one who took the 'NOT' out of that sentence by re-typing
> it instead of just reading the original one correctly. It reads: "does NOT
> contradict..."
>

​No, It was just an omission while retyping. I did notice "does not". ​ The
rest of what I wrote stands unchanged. The point I was making is that the
premise underlying the condition was not valid. So I asked "Multi-stakeholder
model is expanded democracy, the next step in the further evolution of
democracy. Is there room for this model to contradict the ideals of
democracy???"

Thank you
Sivasubramanian M


>
>>
>> "consideration of rights of minorities" - If this is a Global process,
>> open for participation from all stake-holders, from every nation, the
>> policies that would emerge out of the process is bound to be balanced. The
>> intention behind this thought about the "rights" of minorities might be
>> noble, but as unintended consequences, this idea of special attention could
>> lead to politicization of the process.
>>
>
> This has nothing to do with 'special attention' or with special interests
> or with ethnic or cultural minorities (I put the following in parentheses
> in front of the word 'minorities': 'in the context of Internet policy'
> precisely to signal that this is not about cultural or ethnic
> minorities.) Suresh's reading is right; it is about inclusiveness and
> consensus building. I was trying to avoid limiting the reference to
> democracy to its most common instances or simplistic understanding whereby
> the winner (majority) takes all, in favor of the ideals of democracy
> whereby the majority still has to take the views or interests of the
> minority into consideration while governing (think of Egypt and the
> democratically elected President Morsi.) More precisely (and completely
> unrelated to Egypt in my mind), I borrow the notion of "rights of
> minorities" from Hannah Arendt in her analysis of totalitarianism. But I
> hear you and will try to reconsider the wording.
>
> Thanks,
> Mawaki
>
>
>
>> In India the intention to protect minority interests began with policies
>> of special attention, special laws and reservation of seats for minorities
>> in education, work and politics and this move to ensure social justice has
>> also caused some imbalance in a certain way; In the US, the Government's
>> openness to representation by Special Interest and Lobby groups, at least
>> occasionally, results in a situation where the amplified voice of the lobby
>> group wins over the muted voice or silence of others. Certainly a global
>> process can not create a situation where minorities would be neglected, but
>> this needs to be achieved in a manner that does not complicate the goodness
>> of the process. Instead of mentioning "minorities" we could say "all"
>>
>> Sivasubramanian M
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>


-- 
Sivasubramanian Muthusamy
India +91 99524 03099
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