[governance] Re: "[...] to seize Iran's Internet licenses & domain name assets"
Carlos A. Afonso
ca at cafonso.ca
Mon Jun 30 10:22:03 EDT 2014
Far, far-fetched... again!
--c.a.
On 06/30/2014 09:56 AM, JFC Morfin wrote:
> At 04:09 29/06/2014, Abdul Jaleel Shittu wrote:
>> Who is wagging cyber war against who? The big Boss has unquestionable
>> right to do anything as he likes. This development is not a good omen
>> to the aspiration Internet Governance, this judgement is justifying
>> the moves by some countries to have alternative www, where mutual
>> respects prevail.
>
> Dear Abdul,
>
> The fundamental scientific issue for 125 years (since 21 Jan 1889
> Norwegian award to Henri Poincaré for his non-demonstration of the
> n-body problem) is the replacement of the Newtonian paradigm. We are
> therefore engaged in a mental change of the magnitude of the Copernician
> revolution. The problem is the problem of "locality". You probably heard
> about the EPR experimentation and teleportation. Some information travel
> faster than photons. Causes may seem to precede their effect. This
> problem now becomes the core of the Internet issue as it entangles with
> what is known as the technological singularity (not that machines will
> replace human, but that humans cannot stay human without machines: last
> time we known a singularity was with Socrates/Plato/Aristotle when they
> switched human behaviour from feelings (sophism) to logic (syllogism) -
> to day we are switching from dialectic logic to
> monolectic/cybernetics+polylectics/agorics and we needed the digital
> renormalization to scale, being limited by our brain relational capacity
> [Dunbar number http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dunbar%27s_number
> <http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dunbar's_number>]).
>
> You know that Claude Shanon has introduced entropy in information theory
> through the communications concept. We have the same knind of thinking
> to accomplish to introduce now negentropy through the intellition
> concept. Communications are data transported at the speed of the light.
> Intellition are data that are already here because they make sense.
>
> This architectonic (comprehending how things are) development
> dramatically enlarges the spectrum of possibilities in architectural
> (designing how some things should be) design. The internet architecture
> is documented in IEN 48 (http://www.rfc-editor.org/ien/ien48.txt). Over
> the years working on it helped people to better take advantage from its
> architectonics (it has even become a scientific discipline using the
> internet as a test-bed). It has become quite intricated with intelligent
> and stupid things.
>
> More and more, understanding the internet, net-neutrality, net-economy,
> the internet governance, etc. is like understanding physics, relativity,
> quantum-physic, energy, etc. because this is the ***same*** thing :
> information/communication/intellition. The confusion is the same: you
> have the technicians/scientifics, the politicians and the lawyers. The
> lawyers are people who apply the law, that the politicians enforce, that
> the technicians impose to all through popular machines, that science
> tries to discover.
>
> Things would be easier and go faster the other way round, but this is
> the way the world does the things: along the money's increasing flow
> against the common sense's one.
>
> Lawyers are talking about a legal unique authoritative root. Politicials
> are protecting an US unique authoritative root. Technicians have
> developed a technology to support billions of unique authoritative
> roots. Scientists know that unique authoritative roots are neither
> legalized, neither built, but observed and massaged by each user for
> his/her own home use. The king is naked. But since he is the king he can
> lie and say otherwise.
>
> The .ir issue is a legal joke which alarms and makes lawyers, possibly
> politicians, sqawking. It only shows that lawyers did not even designed
> their contractual network to protect the world from this kind of
> technical absurdity due to a legal/political lack of consideration. We
> did not trust the politicians, we know now why we can distrust the
> lawyers. Why would I waste time and money with an unfinished system, at
> guessing, worrying and developping contingency plans due to such nasty
> attacks with unforeseable results and delays.
>
> Who can we then trust?
>
> Not the technicians anymore. They explained it last year (IEEE, ISOC,
> IAB, IERF, W3C): they themselves trust the maket's economics, i.e. the
> mechants (however they do not say how): this is the RFC 6852 about the
> "modern normative paradigm". The acknowledgment of the "local/global"
> problem at the RFC process level.
>
> This is why "moves by some countries to have alternative www, where
> mutual respects prevail" is the way out. Not only at country, region,
> language, city, village, trade, etc but at individual level. This is
> what the WSIS has unanimously wished: a people centered digitality.
> Don't worry. There is a unique authoritative sky, but it is not decided
> by the (SOS) Scientific Observatory System. Believe me: you do not need
> ICANN to know where the stars are ....
>
> jfc
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
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>>
>> On Sat, Jun 28, 2014 at 9:41 PM, Norbert Bollow <nb at bollow.ch
>> <mailto:nb at bollow.ch>> wrote:
>>
>> Am Fri, 27 Jun 2014 16:18:07 +0200
>> schrieb Stephane Bortzmeyer <bortzmeyer at internatif.org
>> <mailto:bortzmeyer at internatif.org>>:
>> > There have been, apparently, a judgment (transferring the .ir, no
>> > less...), in the USA:
>> >
>> >
>> http://www.timesofisrael.com/israeli-us-terror-victims-now-own-irans-internet/
>>
>> Is the judgment itself available online?
>> I find the article not overly illuminating, it IMO seems to be
>> based to
>> a too large extent on speculations of people who evidently don't know
>> what they're talking about in relation to the Internet. Not that the
>> judgment itself is necessarily better in that regard, but court
>> judgments are a serious matter regardless of the correctness of the
>> underlying assumptions.
>> Greetings,
>> Norbert
>>
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