CS consensual statement on MSism WAS Re: [governance] Vint Verf tells us the conclusion of the complex IANA transition process

Tue Jul 29 12:32:59 EDT 2014

Consensus based: we debate for days trying to find common ground which
is usually elusive

On 29/07/2014, Deirdre Williams <williams.deirdre at gmail.com> wrote:
> I have a suggestion which I hope won't be considered too flippant. There's
> a game, at least in English, for whiling away long car journeys, in which
> the participants take turns to suggest adjectives, in alphabetical order,
> for "the parson's cat".
> Our "parson's cat" is "multistakeholderism"
> My turn first - I suggest that an attribute of multistakeholderism is
> "inclusive", that we share a common understanding that multistakeholderism
> is (or should be) a way towards more inclusive participation in the IG
> debate and decision making.
> Next person - either suggest another attribute that you think we perceive
> in common, or take what I proposed and qualify it as you think necessary -
> "but ....", or both.
> This way we can build up a list of attributes in common while at the same
> time being made aware of the reservations and exceptions that people may
> have.
> Could that work?
> Deirdre
>
>
> On 29 July 2014 11:05, Mawaki Chango <kichango at gmail.com> wrote:
>
>> I personally endorsed the use of that phrase earlier on the basis, and
>> only on the basis, that this is work in progress, that we are right in
>> this
>> thread and in a couple of others related seeking to hammer out a common
>> understanding. So I have been listening and hope I am being listened to
>> as
>> well. There will be a point where we might reach and declare some common
>> understanding or we will have to acknowledge our failure to reach such
>> outcome.
>>
>> Are we there yet?
>>
>> Mawaki
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> On Tue, Jul 29, 2014 at 2:47 PM, Norbert Bollow <nb at bollow.ch> wrote:
>>
>>> Is there really a common understanding of multistakeholderism? I don't
>>> think so, and I would further suggest that it will be a good starting
>>> point to acknowledge that currently there are several different
>>> understandings of multistakeholderism, and to therefore start listening
>>> to each other with a goal of learning how others may understand
>>> "multistakeholderism" differently.
>>>
>>> Greetings,
>>> Norbert
>>>
>>> On Tue, 29 Jul 2014 10:31:29 -0400
>>> Deirdre Williams <williams.deirdre at gmail.com> wrote:
>>>
>>> > +1 for common understanding.
>>> > Deirdre
>>> >
>>> >
>>> > On 29 July 2014 10:16, Mawaki Chango <kichango at gmail.com> wrote:
>>> >
>>> > > I am ok with "common understanding" (putting the emphasis in my last
>>> > > sentence below on the term "understand" rather than on
>>> > > "definition'.) Note: at times some may also refer to it as working
>>> > > definition, whatever designation people are comfortable with works
>>> > > fine for me, but I like the modest and cooperative tone in "common
>>> > > understanding".
>>> > >
>>> > > Mawaki
>>> > >
>>> > >
>>> > > On Tue, Jul 29, 2014 at 1:34 PM, Nnenna Nwakanma
>>> > > <nnenna75 at gmail.com> wrote:
>>> > >
>>> > >> Should we seek "a common understanding" instead of  "definition"?
>>> > >>
>>> > >> Just asking
>>> > >>
>>> > >> N
>>> > >>
>>> > >>
>>> > >> On Tue, Jul 29, 2014 at 10:24 AM, Mawaki Chango
>>> > >> <kichango at gmail.com> wrote:
>>> > >>
>>> > >>>
>>> > >>>  On Tue, Jul 29, 2014 at 9:11 AM, Mwendwa Kivuva <
>>> > >>> Kivuva at transworldafrica.com> wrote:
>>> > >>>
>>> > >>>> Ian, probably multistakeholder is not  defined yet because it is
>>> > >>>> composed of two words multiple-stakeholders. And stakeholder too
>>> > >>>> is composed of two words stake-holder. Technically then,
>>> > >>>> Multistakeholder is composed of three words
>>> > >>>>
>>> > >>>
>>> > >>> It's a totally different question as to whether
>>> > >>> "mutistakeholderism" needs to be defined despite being made up of
>>> > >>> parts that are familiar. And I think all definition questions
>>> > >>> boil down to people struggling to understand precisely what
>>> > >>> "mutistakeholderism" is or should be.
>>> > >>>
>>> > >>> Mawaki
>>> > >>>
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