CS consensual statement on MSism WAS Re: [governance] Vint Verf tells us the conclusion of the complex IANA transition process

Deirdre Williams williams.deirdre at gmail.com
Tue Jul 29 11:36:59 EDT 2014


I have a suggestion which I hope won't be considered too flippant. There's
a game, at least in English, for whiling away long car journeys, in which
the participants take turns to suggest adjectives, in alphabetical order,
for "the parson's cat".
Our "parson's cat" is "multistakeholderism"
My turn first - I suggest that an attribute of multistakeholderism is
"inclusive", that we share a common understanding that multistakeholderism
is (or should be) a way towards more inclusive participation in the IG
debate and decision making.
Next person - either suggest another attribute that you think we perceive
in common, or take what I proposed and qualify it as you think necessary -
"but ....", or both.
This way we can build up a list of attributes in common while at the same
time being made aware of the reservations and exceptions that people may
have.
Could that work?
Deirdre


On 29 July 2014 11:05, Mawaki Chango <kichango at gmail.com> wrote:

> I personally endorsed the use of that phrase earlier on the basis, and
> only on the basis, that this is work in progress, that we are right in this
> thread and in a couple of others related seeking to hammer out a common
> understanding. So I have been listening and hope I am being listened to as
> well. There will be a point where we might reach and declare some common
> understanding or we will have to acknowledge our failure to reach such
> outcome.
>
> Are we there yet?
>
> Mawaki
>
>
>
>
> On Tue, Jul 29, 2014 at 2:47 PM, Norbert Bollow <nb at bollow.ch> wrote:
>
>> Is there really a common understanding of multistakeholderism? I don't
>> think so, and I would further suggest that it will be a good starting
>> point to acknowledge that currently there are several different
>> understandings of multistakeholderism, and to therefore start listening
>> to each other with a goal of learning how others may understand
>> “multistakeholderism” differently.
>>
>> Greetings,
>> Norbert
>>
>> On Tue, 29 Jul 2014 10:31:29 -0400
>> Deirdre Williams <williams.deirdre at gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>> > +1 for common understanding.
>> > Deirdre
>> >
>> >
>> > On 29 July 2014 10:16, Mawaki Chango <kichango at gmail.com> wrote:
>> >
>> > > I am ok with "common understanding" (putting the emphasis in my last
>> > > sentence below on the term "understand" rather than on
>> > > "definition'.) Note: at times some may also refer to it as working
>> > > definition, whatever designation people are comfortable with works
>> > > fine for me, but I like the modest and cooperative tone in "common
>> > > understanding".
>> > >
>> > > Mawaki
>> > >
>> > >
>> > > On Tue, Jul 29, 2014 at 1:34 PM, Nnenna Nwakanma
>> > > <nnenna75 at gmail.com> wrote:
>> > >
>> > >> Should we seek "a common understanding" instead of  "definition"?
>> > >>
>> > >> Just asking
>> > >>
>> > >> N
>> > >>
>> > >>
>> > >> On Tue, Jul 29, 2014 at 10:24 AM, Mawaki Chango
>> > >> <kichango at gmail.com> wrote:
>> > >>
>> > >>>
>> > >>>  On Tue, Jul 29, 2014 at 9:11 AM, Mwendwa Kivuva <
>> > >>> Kivuva at transworldafrica.com> wrote:
>> > >>>
>> > >>>> Ian, probably multistakeholder is not  defined yet because it is
>> > >>>> composed of two words multiple-stakeholders. And stakeholder too
>> > >>>> is composed of two words stake-holder. Technically then,
>> > >>>> Multistakeholder is composed of three words
>> > >>>>
>> > >>>
>> > >>> It's a totally different question as to whether
>> > >>> "mutistakeholderism" needs to be defined despite being made up of
>> > >>> parts that are familiar. And I think all definition questions
>> > >>> boil down to people struggling to understand precisely what
>> > >>> "mutistakeholderism" is or should be.
>> > >>>
>> > >>> Mawaki
>> > >>>
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