CS consensual statement on MSism WAS Re: [governance] Vint Verf tells us the conclusion of the complex IANA transition process

[Nnenna Nwakanma]

Avri, how will this "equal footing" within stakeholder groups, as was seen
in NetMundial include actors who are not physically present?

Or we talking process  or events or both? Are we talking  "tacking Internet
issues on global level" or are we including regional and national levels?

Does anyone have  an "equal footing" example at country levels?

... Still thinking..

Nnenna


On Sun, Jul 27, 2014 at 12:32 PM, Avri Doria <avri at acm.org> wrote:

>
>
> On 27-Jul-14 11:41, Fouad Bajwa wrote:
> > somehow remain very uncomfortable with the term equal footing. EF will
> > never give balance in MSism and decision making situations. Anyways, so
> > much has been said on this but it still remains politically incorrect.
>
>
> I tend to disagree.  For me it is  a critical phrase in the definition
> for the very reason that I beleive it has been misappropriated by a few
> governments and misunderstood by many.  It is such a simple term, with a
> simple metaphoric meaning, that I do intend to keep on using it.  And I
> think that many different groups can be on an equal footing with each
> other at the same time.  For example, we could have a global
> multistakeholder event like the NETmundial were everyone is on equal
> footing.  Yet, when the governments went off amongst themselves to
> discuss things, they were also on an equal footing, as were the CS folk
> when they went off to talk among themselves.  To my mind there is no
> dialogue without equal footing, it becomes more command/supplicant
> exchange without equal footing.
>
> I personally think that the more decisions that are actually made on an
> equal footing the better.  But the realist in me realizes that we aren't
> there yet, just like we probably won't reach global direct democracy in
> my lifetime.  That is why I indicate that in those cases, where the
> final decision making is not done on a equal footing, it "may be
> assigned to a single stakeholder group" and that "these decision makers
> are always accountable to all of the stakeholders for their decisions
> and the implementations."  Implementation is rarely multistakeholder.
>
> The assigned decision makers for some things may be governments, we
> obviously have different viewpoints on the utility of governments in
> various situations, but I think the definition should be neutral as to
> particular cases   The decsions maker may also be the IESG, when talking
> about an IP protocol, the ICANN Board when talking about a gTLD policy
> or the coder when talking about a new bit of system architecture design
> in a multistakeholder committee, etc. Or WIPO on property, or the ITU on
> telephone numbers.  The point is that as much as possible the discussion
> leading up to the actual decisions, including the recommendation of
> solutions, it should be multistakeholder.  And in as many cases as
> possible we should aim for equal footing even at the decision level.
>
> As I said I tried to make the definition I use to explain it to people
> neutral in that respect.  I find it works well for me both in explaining
> things, in studying things and in modeling various real life scenarios
> and in tactical thinking for advocacy.
>
> Your mileage may vary.
>
> avri
>
>
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