[governance] Rupert Murdoch Says Businesses Should Have A Larger Say in Public Policy

William Drake wjdrake at gmail.com
Fri Jul 18 09:49:58 EDT 2014 

On Jul 18, 2014, at 3:20 PM, Sivasubramanian M <isolatedn at gmail.com> wrote:

> I wonder where this perception of Rupert Murdoch comes from. Tomorrow Never Dies, perhaps? Interestingly it was the first movie made after Broccoli's death. 

Mr. Burns http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9O3ceqa2lIo


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> Business has a right to speak out on public policy matters, even on issues not directly related to their area of operation.
> Business is just as entitled to express its opinion as unions are.
> Murdoch said business had a role to play in shaping public policy in a democracy.
> If we feel we have a contribution to make to the debate we should do so. Certainly my newspapers do so every day and we far from regularly win the argument.
> It's very important that, if we live in a democracy, with real entrepreneurship, you've got to have a world of ideas to debate.
> Businesses should be involved in shaping public policy
> Governments need to loosen constraints on business.
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> What is wrong with all this?  This is a position by a powerful businessman and it is good for the multi-stakeholder model. I view this as a very positive development and I feel that Rupert Murdoch could pursue this further and bring together like minded businessmen from every where to share these views.
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> (About Governments taking a back seat, I am not sure if he meant government out of governance. He could not possibly have meant that.)
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> On Fri, Jul 18, 2014 at 4:51 PM, parminder <parminder at itforchange.net> wrote:
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> On Friday 18 July 2014 04:11 PM, Ian Peter wrote:
> Other Murdoch companies are already involved with internet governance,  with 21st Century Fox a prominent member of ICC Basis,and active pursuing their interests (and perhaps disproportionately) at NetMundial.
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> Well of course.... I still cannot get over the horror of seeing the reps of Disney and Cisco walk over at the Net Mundial to the outcome document drafting group and reading out text from their small screens (yes, I know they were supposed to be trying to tell what an earlier version of the text looked like was) - while some civil society people standing by who butted in some comments were immediately sshhh-ed...
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> And right now at an ISOC group working on IG issues, the Disney rep is trying to tell everyone that rather than the well established policy term of 'local content' it is far better to use 'relevant content'. No prizes for guessing why.  ... There was a time when speaking on an issue in this manner in a policy forum when there was such a keen conflict of interest involved was a clear no no. But then that was before the days of multistakeholderism.
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> Also right now the framing document for the main session on net neutrality (which has been successfully resisted for so long by an MS MAG) is thoroughly colored with track changes put in by AT and T and Verizons of this world....
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> Whom are we really fooling here .....
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> -----Original Message----- From: Paul Wilson
> Sent: Friday, July 18, 2014 8:31 PM
> To: Suresh Ramasubramanian
> Cc: governance at lists.igcaucus.org ; Pranesh Prakash ; Jefsey
> Subject: Re: [governance] Rupert Murdoch Says Businesses Should Have A Larger Say in Public Policy
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> I need to watch my spontaneous comments, especially the cheeky ones.
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> But I was referring to the fact that, arguably, News Corp has wielded a disproportional influence over many things, including election results. Australia is possibly their last bastion, judging by our recent results; but of course, the voters are always free to do what they feel is right.  :-)
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> On 18 Jul 2014, at 8:17 pm, Suresh Ramasubramanian <suresh at hserus.net> wrote:
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> There are government reps and civil society groups that are just as 'good' ad Mr murdochs people are. They still do get a say in msm. So despite everything, it will survive.
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> On 18 July 2014 3:45:01 pm Jefsey <jefsey at jefsey.com> wrote:
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> At 11:32 18/07/2014, Paul Wilson wrote:
> >God help the multistakeholder process if News Corp gets involved.
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> Paul,
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> are you meaning that News Corps are not (equal) stakeholders in the
> Information Society? Why would they not be on an equal footing with
> states and other stakeholders? What is worrying is an MS process
> where there are undefined "indirect" stakeholders and where
> independent users are not on an equal footing with everyone else.
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> He does not plead for News Corp to have a larger say than ICANN, RIR,
> manufacturer, edge provider, ISP, etc. and  other kind of
> corporations. But that the role permitted to the News Corps, and
> Corps in general, should be larger than what it is currently
> permitted in order to be in accordance to their effective weight in
> the human/computer/corporation society of today.
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> I hope you do not say the same about independent users (IUsers)?
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> Take care.
> jfc
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